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Dana,

 

See Will Senning’s response he sent around at 12:22PM.  It addresses union
high school district votes.

 

Carol D

 

 

From: Vermont Municipal Government Discussion Network
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Roberta Dana
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:22 PM
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Subject: Re: School budget revote

 

This is a union school district budget vote not a municipal budget vote so
I'm not sure if the rules are different or not???

 

 

Roberta Dana
Groton Town Treasurer
& Collector of Current Taxes
1476 Scott Hwy
Groton, VT 05046
802-584-3131
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From: Barbara Torian <mailto:[log in to unmask]>  

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Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 3:00 PM

Subject: Re: School budget revote

 

It has been a while since I was clerk and this all sounds wrong to me. (but
what do I know)  What does “ shall take appropriate steps to warn a public
informational meeting on the budget and the vote” mean?

Also just for clarification there is a difference between a revote and a
revised budget vote.  

2641. Warning and notice required; publication of warnings

(a) The legislative body of a municipality shall warn a meeting by posting a
warning and notice in at least two public places in the town, and in or near
the town clerk's office, not less than 30 nor more than 40 days before the
meeting. If a town has more than one polling place and the polling places
are not all in the same building, the warning and notice shall be posted in
at least two public places within each voting district and in or near the
town clerk's office.

(b) In addition, the warning shall be published in a newspaper of general
circulation in the municipality at least five days before the meeting,
unless the warning is published in the town report, or otherwise distributed
in written form to all town or city postal patrons at least 10 days before
the meeting. The legislative body annually shall designate the paper in
which such a warning may be published. No such warning shall be required for
municipal informational meetings at which no voting is to take place. (Added
1977, No. 269 (Adj. Sess.), § 1; amended 1979, No. 200 (Adj. Sess.), § 98;
amended 1985, No. 196 (Adj. Sess.), § 5; 1999, No. 148 (Adj. Sess.), § 85,
eff. May 24, 2000.)

Just another 10cents

Barb

 

From: Vermont Municipal Clerks Treasurers Association
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Roberta Dana
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 2:09 PM
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Subject: Re: School budget revote

 

The official ballots will be prepared by the school and will have to come to
the town clerk from the school before she can send out absentee ballots and
my understanding is the final number is being decided by the school board on
the night of March 14th.  

Maybe the legislature needs to look at this timing again.  Afterall, we all
do have a constitutional right to vote and what about people serving in the
military?  Will they get to vote?  No because there is no way we can get
ballots back and forth to them in foreign countries on time.  Will be time
constricted even getting them out in the mail and back in the mail for local
people especially if they are out of town for some reason.  

 

Roberta Dana
Groton Town Treasurer
& Collector of Current Taxes
1476 Scott Hwy
Groton, VT 05046
802-584-3131
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From: Jeannine <mailto:[log in to unmask]>  

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Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:58 PM

Subject: Re: School budget revote

 

We have had to have school budget re-votes in the past, and I believe the
idea behind the rush is to have an APPROVED budget for the State or they
will be forced to use the prior year’s budget.  I don’t remember when that
date is, but maybe July 1st?  Maybe they’re anticipating another defeat.

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Vermont Municipal Clerks Treasurers Association
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Carol Dawes
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:05 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: School budget revote

 

Hey Dana,

 

I agree with you regarding the amount of time not providing adequate
notice/printing/absentee ballot mailing time, however, the school board is
within the bounds of the law:

17 VSA 2680(c) Budgets. (excerpt from section)

If a budget voted on by Australian ballot is rejected, the legislative body
shall prepare a revised budget. The legislative body shall establish a date
for the vote on the revised budget, and shall take appropriate steps to warn
a public informational meeting on the budget and the vote. The date of the
public informational meeting shall be at least five days following the
public notice. The date of the vote shall be at least seven days following
the public notice. The vote on the revised budget shall be by Australian
ballot and shall take place in the same locations that the first vote was
taken. The budget shall be established if a majority of all votes cast are
in favor. If the revised budget is rejected, the legislative body shall
repeat the procedure in this subsection until a budget is adopted. Once a
municipality votes to establish its budget by the Australian ballot system,
the vote on the budget shall be taken by Australian ballot until the
municipality votes to discontinue use of the system.

As for early/absentee ballots, you must send them out to all those who
requested them for the original vote, without those voters having to request
the ballots again.  This re-vote is considered a continuation of the
original elections, so they are entitled to get the ballots.  Unfortunately,
I’ve had way too much practice with budget re-votes, as the municipal
budgets rarely pass in Barre City on the first try.  We’ll be re-voting both
the muni budget and the school budget on May 14th.

 

Carol

 

Carolyn S. Dawes, CVT

Barre City Clerk/Treasurer

6 North Main St.

PO Box 418

Barre, VT   05641

(802) 476-0242 phone

(802) 476-0264 fax

www.barrecity.org

 

 

 

 

From: Vermont Municipal Clerks Treasurers Association
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Roberta Dana
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 7:39 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: School budget revote

 

On Town meeting day, our union district school budget was not passed
(Australian ballot).

The school board is planning on making final decisions on a new budget at a
school board meeting to be held on March 14th.

They will need to print ballots and deliver them to the three town clerks in
the district.  

They are planning on having the school budget revote on March 27th which is
less than two weeks from their final budget decision meeting meaning that in
my estimation, there will not be enough time allowed for the clerks to
accept requests for absentee ballots, mail out absentee ballots and then for
the registered voters to get their ballots returned to the town office by
the end of voting day.  Also, we do have a situation where a registered
voter is leaving the country on vacation more than likely before the ballots
are ready meaning that this voter will NOT get a chance to vote on this
issue.

Is this just a "tough luck" voter or is this a legal issue?

IMHO, the vote is being rushed and there could very well be more voters out
there that will not be able to vote due to the constricted timing!

 

 

 

Roberta Dana
Groton Town Treasurer
& Collector of Current Taxes
1476 Scott Hwy
Groton, VT 05046
802-584-3131
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