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I interviewed Peter Iles, a principal who was the first to sign a contract with google for Chromebooks in the US a few episodes ago on my podcast (episode 13<http://www.edlisten.com/2013/01/edlisten-13-interview-with-principal.html>). His school does not have a regular tech so it was going to be his job to manage them. Best quote: Peter: "A few months into the program the tech stopped me in the hall and asked how much time I spend working on the chromebooks. I thought about it and replied about 1 hour. The tech replied (surprised) 1 hour a week? My reply; No 1 hour total." *Bjorn Behrendt M.Ed ~ Never Stop Learning* * [log in to unmask] | (802) 772-0003* * Google Apps For Education Certified Trainer * *My Sites* ~ Edlisten.com ~ Educational Podcast ~ AskBj.net ~ Online Training and Ed Tech Resources ~ VTed.org ~ Vermont's Personal Learning Network gClassFolders <https://sites.google.com/a/askbj.net/edlisten-resources/my-resources/gclassfolders>~ Create Google folders for your class. On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Bob Wickberg <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I got a chuckle out of the first one. 8700 Chromebooks, and one coach to > help people use them. > > Bob Wickberg > Technology Coordinator > Brattleboro Union High School District # 6 > 802-451-3418 > > > > School Information Technology Discussion <[log in to unmask]> writes: > >Some recent articles re this issue… > > > > > > > >[ > > > http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20130417/NEWS02/304170061/Greater-Clark-Chromebooks > >] > http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20130417/NEWS02/304170061/Greater-Clark-Chromebooks > > > > > > > >[ > > > http://googleappsupdates.blogspot.ca/2013/04/manage-chrome-policies-from-google.html > >] > http://googleappsupdates.blogspot.ca/2013/04/manage-chrome-policies-from-google.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: School Information Technology Discussion > >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Caleb Clark > >Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 2:19 PM > >To: [log in to unmask] > >Subject: Re: iPad vs Chromebook for 8th grade 1:1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Just a follow up note. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >We met to narrow down our usage needs. What came out was the absolute > >need to have any device be able to work offline with Putney's GAFE, so > >there's no issues for those students with limited or no online access. > >This is important to the board and principal. iPads are not doing Google > >Drive offline last time I checked, so it looks like CB's for this pilot. > >They can work completely offline, and they sych when in a wireless zone > >again. Drive could do this on a PC or Mac, but not for under $300 we > >think. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Caleb Clark <[ > >mailto:[log in to unmask] ][log in to unmask]> > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > >This is a very helpful thread, thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Further questions > > > > > >Anyone know the process and cost for sending in Chromebooks for repair > >(Repair and shipping)? I assume most SW issues can be dwelt with by > >wiping the machine while the student has a loaner. > >We'd rather not limit, lock down or filter when students are off campus. > >Does anyone have a good AUP that addresses the issues of open access at > >home so the school is protected? > >Anyone ever used Chromeboosk admin software? Seems very > >low maintenance and effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Caleb Clark <[ > >mailto:[log in to unmask] ][log in to unmask]> > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > >that's very well put Bjorn. I've heard iPads are easy to deploy 1:1 if > >you put updating apps and OSes to each user (Parent/student/family) and > >simply supply numbers to them for them to install APPs you buy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:44 PM, Bjorn Behrendt <[ mailto:[log in to unmask] > >][log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >If it is still a glass screen stay I would stay away from the 3gopc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Chromebooks: > > > > > > > > > >- Built specifically to me network deployments: Very easy to mange. > > > > > > > > > >- Great Collaboration: Works well with Google Apps > > > > > > > > > >- Full laptop formfactor > > > > > > > > > >- Chrome Web Store = Apps found here can be run on ChromeOS, Mac, or PC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >iPad > > > > > > > > > >- Built for personal use: Central management issues > > > > > > > > > >- Portable > > > > > > > > > >- App store = Apps are only available on the device > > > > > > > > > >- A lot of PD around how it can be adapted to be used in education. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Both have value. My ideal device configuration would be: 1:1 with > >Chromebooks, wired lab of Macs, and a mobile lab of iPads. I actually > >like Android tablets better than the iPads but there is so much > >information around using iPads specifically that it would be very hard to > >implement. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Bjorn Behrendt M.Ed ~ Never Stop Learning > > > > > > > > > > [ mailto:[log in to unmask] ][log in to unmask] | [ tel:%28802%29%20772-0003 > >](802) 772-0003 > > > > > > > > > > Google Apps For Education Certified Trainer > > > > > > > > > >My Sites > > > > > > > > > > ~ [ http://Edlisten.com ]Edlisten.com ~ Educational Podcast > > > > > > > > > > ~ AskBj.net ~ Online Training and Ed Tech Resources > > > > > > > > > > ~ VTed.org ~ Vermont's Personal Learning Network > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >[ > > > https://sites.google.com/a/askbj.net/edlisten-resources/my-resources/gclassfolders > >]gClassFolders ~ Create Google folders for your class. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:37 PM, [ mailto:[log in to unmask] > >][log in to unmask] <[ mailto:[log in to unmask] ][log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > >Caleb, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I like your thoughts on this. Upper and lower. We are looking at the > >new PC 2 G0 [ > > > http://www.2gopc.com/2gopc-products/2go-convertible-classmate-pc-nl3-netbook/ > >] > http://www.2gopc.com/2gopc-products/2go-convertible-classmate-pc-nl3-netbook/ > . > > I always worry that upper grades will consider the Chromebooks limited > >and Google still has a long way to go on their Googles App's quality > >control. That being said Chromebooks have a place in our community. > > Does SBAC play any role in the decision? Love to know the decision. > > > > > > > > > >J > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:50 AM, Caleb Clark <[ > >mailto:[log in to unmask] ][log in to unmask]> > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I've got a side gig once a week helping a local middle school. They want > >to pilot a 1:1 program with 15 8th graders in the fall. Eventually it > >will be at least 6, 7, 8th grades. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I'm looking for any thoughts on iPads vs Chromebooks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >The school uses Google for it's LMS and two Macbook carts and two iPad > >carts now for students. Teachers have Macbooks, Elmos, some Starboards. > >IT is the science teacher, and I do 4 hours a week for Tech Integration. > >We are funding the pilot, not the parents. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Our current hypothesis is that younger kids are good with the iPad carts. > >They are tactile, and below the 6th grade, perhaps 1:1s are not as > >needed. In the 6-8th grades though, we think it might be good to move to > >a full keyboard laptop, but a rugged one that we can lock down to focus > >on our Google Apps, making it a school computer. We don't have money for > >Airbooks, and we don't want PCs due to the increased IT load and cost for > >the the small school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Chromebooks: We like Chromebooks and have tested them. They seem to have > >low IT load, easy wireless admin, and be a great school computer. We are > >looking at their Java issues. (We are interested in the [ > > > http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/education/devices/lenovo-x131e-chromebook.html#len-x131e > >]Lenovo Education Chromebook too, any users our there?). We'd keep the > >iPads for the tactical younger kids below 6th grade, and the Macbooks for > >media editing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >iPads: We are a mostly Mac school, and iPads are getting better with > >Google Drive. We've heard from other schools that the IT load can be low > >if you let the parents and kids keep them updated. We've talked to some > >schools who simply put software serial numbers in emails or mailboxes and > >have the kids/parents download Apps. We use Configurator now, and it > >sucks, but it's faster then tweaking 20 iPads on a single USB with only > >iTunes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Thoughts oh wise list? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Case studies in VT? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Caleb Clark > >Director: [ http://gradschool.marlboro.edu/academics/edtech/ ]Educational > >technology program. Marlboro College Graduate School. > >Masters degree. Certificate. ETS endorsement. Single classes. Workshops. > >Contact: [ mailto:[log in to unmask] > >][log in to unmask] | [ tel:802-258-9207 ]802-258-9207 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > > > > > > > > > > > >Technology Educator > > > > > > > > > >[ mailto:[log in to unmask] ][log in to unmask] > > > > > > > > > >The St. Johnsbury Elementary School [ http://www.stjsd.org/ > >]www.stjsd.org > >257 Western Ave - St. Johnsbury, VT 05819 > >[ tel:802-748-8912 ]802-748-8912 Fax: [ tel:802-748-1095 ]802-748-1095 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Vermont's Internet Safety Project [ http://www.vtisp.org/ ]www.Vtisp.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Caleb Clark > >Director: [ http://gradschool.marlboro.edu/academics/edtech/ ]Educational > >technology program. Marlboro College Graduate School. > >Masters degree. Certificate. ETS endorsement. Single classes. Workshops. > >Contact: [ mailto:[log in to unmask] > >][log in to unmask] | [ tel:802-258-9207 ]802-258-9207 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Caleb Clark > >Director: [ http://gradschool.marlboro.edu/academics/edtech/ ]Educational > >technology program. Marlboro College Graduate School. > >Masters degree. Certificate. ETS endorsement. Single classes. Workshops. > >Contact: [ mailto:[log in to unmask] > >][log in to unmask] | [ tel:802-258-9207 ]802-258-9207 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >Caleb Clark > >Director: [ http://gradschool.marlboro.edu/academics/edtech/ ]Educational > >technology program. Marlboro College Graduate School. > >Masters degree. Certificate. ETS endorsement. Single classes. Workshops. > >Contact: [ mailto:[log in to unmask] > >][log in to unmask] | 802-258-9207 > > > > > > > > > > > > >