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that's what I've been sensing, thanks for the intel...I'll pass it on.


On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Bjorn Behrendt <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I interviewed Peter Iles, a principal who was the first to sign a contract
> with google for Chromebooks in the US a few episodes ago on my podcast (episode
> 13<http://www.edlisten.com/2013/01/edlisten-13-interview-with-principal.html>).
>   His school does not have a regular tech so it was going to be his job to
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> Peter: "A few months into the program the tech stopped me in the hall and
> asked how much time I spend working on the chromebooks.   I thought about
> it and replied about 1 hour.   The tech replied (surprised) 1 hour a week?
>  My reply; No 1 hour total."
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> *Bjorn Behrendt M.Ed ~ Never Stop Learning*
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> gClassFolders <https://sites.google.com/a/askbj.net/edlisten-resources/my-resources/gclassfolders>~
> Create Google folders for your class.
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> On Thu, Apr 18, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Bob Wickberg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> I got a chuckle out of the first one.  8700 Chromebooks, and one coach to
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>> Bob Wickberg
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>> School Information Technology Discussion <[log in to unmask]> writes:
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>> http://www.courier-journal.com/article/20130417/NEWS02/304170061/Greater-Clark-Chromebooks
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>> http://googleappsupdates.blogspot.ca/2013/04/manage-chrome-policies-from-google.html
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>> >[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Caleb Clark
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>> >Subject: Re: iPad vs Chromebook for 8th grade 1:1
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>> >We met to narrow down our usage needs. What came out was the absolute
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>> >there's no issues for those students with limited or no online access.
>> >This is important to the board and principal. iPads are not  doing Google
>> >Drive offline last time I checked, so it looks like CB's for this pilot.
>> >They can work completely offline, and they sych when in a wireless zone
>> >again. Drive could do this on a PC or Mac, but not for under $300 we
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>> >Anyone know the process and cost for sending in Chromebooks for repair
>> >(Repair and shipping)? I assume most SW issues can be dwelt with by
>> >wiping the machine while the student has a loaner.
>> >We'd rather not limit, lock down or filter when students are off campus.
>> >Does anyone have a good AUP that addresses the issues of open access at
>> >home so the school is protected?
>> >Anyone ever used Chromeboosk admin software? Seems very
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>> >On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Caleb Clark <[
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>> >that's very well put Bjorn. I've heard iPads are easy to deploy 1:1 if
>> >you put updating apps and OSes to each user (Parent/student/family) and
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>> >like Android tablets better than the iPads but there is so much
>> >information around using iPads specifically that it would be very hard to
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>> >Bjorn Behrendt M.Ed ~ Never Stop Learning
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>> >I like your thoughts on this.   Upper and lower.   We are looking at the
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>> http://www.2gopc.com/2gopc-products/2go-convertible-classmate-pc-nl3-netbook/
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>> http://www.2gopc.com/2gopc-products/2go-convertible-classmate-pc-nl3-netbook/
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>> > I always worry that upper grades will consider the Chromebooks limited
>> >and Google still has a long way to go on their Googles App's quality
>> >control.  That being said Chromebooks have a place in our community.
>> > Does SBAC play any role in the decision?  Love to know the decision.
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>> >I've got a side gig once a week helping a local middle school. They want
>> >to pilot a 1:1 program with 15 8th graders in the fall. Eventually it
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>> >The school uses Google for it's LMS and two Macbook carts  and two iPad
>> >carts now for students. Teachers have Macbooks, Elmos, some Starboards.
>> >IT is the science teacher, and I do 4 hours a week for Tech Integration.
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>> >They are tactile,  and below the 6th grade, perhaps 1:1s are not as
>> >needed. In the 6-8th grades though, we think it might be good to move to
>> >a full keyboard laptop, but a rugged one that we can lock down to focus
>> >on our Google Apps, making it a school computer. We don't have money for
>> >Airbooks, and we don't want PCs due to the increased IT load and cost for
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>> >low IT load, easy wireless admin, and be a great school computer. We are
>> >looking at their  Java issues. (We are interested in the [
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>> http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/education/devices/lenovo-x131e-chromebook.html#len-x131e
>> >]Lenovo Education Chromebook too, any users our there?). We'd keep the
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>> >if you let the parents and kids keep them updated. We've talked to some
>> >schools who simply put software serial numbers in emails or mailboxes and
>> >have the kids/parents download Apps. We use Configurator now, and it
>> >sucks, but it's faster then tweaking 20 iPads on a single USB with only
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>> >Caleb Clark
>> >Director: [ http://gradschool.marlboro.edu/academics/edtech/]Educational
>> >technology program. Marlboro College Graduate School.
>> >Masters degree. Certificate. ETS endorsement. Single classes. Workshops.
>> >Contact: [ mailto:[log in to unmask]
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>> >Director: [ http://gradschool.marlboro.edu/academics/edtech/]Educational
>> >technology program. Marlboro College Graduate School.
>> >Masters degree. Certificate. ETS endorsement. Single classes. Workshops.
>> >Contact: [ mailto:[log in to unmask]
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>> >Director: [ http://gradschool.marlboro.edu/academics/edtech/]Educational
>> >technology program. Marlboro College Graduate School.
>> >Masters degree. Certificate. ETS endorsement. Single classes. Workshops.
>> >Contact: [ mailto:[log in to unmask]
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>> >technology program. Marlboro College Graduate School.
>> >Masters degree. Certificate. ETS endorsement. Single classes. Workshops.
>> >Contact: [ mailto:[log in to unmask]
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-- 
*Caleb Clark
*Director: Educational technology
program<http://gradschool.marlboro.edu/academics/edtech/>.
Marlboro College Graduate School.
Masters degree. Certificate. ETS endorsement. Single classes. Workshops.
Contact: [log in to unmask] | 802-258-9207