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So do I  and could have easily come up with references for Doppler Segmental Pressures, but Dawn specifically asked for PVR references.  Fortunately JVU made it easy  they noted in the past issues on the SVU/JVU website the 2 special waveform issues. Thank you JVU for making my search easy.


Carolyn M Semrow, RVS
 

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From: "Milliken, Debra K" <[log in to unmask]>
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>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 3:30 PM
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>Still do Doppler waveforms and pressures as physiologic, not PVR waves
>From: UVM Flownet [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Carolyn Semrow [[log in to unmask]]
>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 3:12 PM
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>Joe,
>I must respectfully disagree, many Vascular Surgeons & Cardio Thoracic Surgeons still want & request physiologic studies and prefer to follow patients with mild & moderate PAD with physiologic rather than imaging.
> Additionally, in the Medicare LCD for PAD, physiologic studies are expected to be the first NIV study.  Duplex Imaging is deemed Medically Necessary if 1 of the following is present & documented in the patients medical records : Limb ischemia & the patient is a candidate for invasive procedure, rest pain, severe claudication that significantly interferes with lifestyle or occupation, aneurysmal disease, evidence of thromboembolic event, blunt trauma, tissue loss or post intervention follow-up. It is not considered medically necessary for vague or minor symptoms, decreased or absent pulses or edema as only presenting symptom. 
>The difference between Medicare & private insurance is that Medicare pays bills submitted without documentation however they may ask for documentation to be sent  or make a site visit  to examine or seize all Medicare patient records for review. If the patient's MR  don't contain the appropriate documentation for the billed procedure Medicare send you a bill for reimbursement. In our lab to ensure medical necessity is documented & part of the MR we performed a disease specific Hx & PE prior to performing an evaluation. 
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>Dawn,
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>In Journal of Vascular Ultrasound there were 2 special issues devoted to waveforms Dec 2011 &June 2012
>Plethysmograhic Waveform Devices    AMKupinski JVU 35(4): 208-213 2011
> Lower-Extremity Arterial Plethysmography Evaluation   M McPharlin JVU 36(2) 135-142,2011
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>I hope this helps
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>Carolyn M Semrow, RVS
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>From: "Schneider, Joseph MD" <[log in to unmask]>
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>>Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2013 10:39 AM
>>Subject: Re: PVR waveform analysis
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>>I would gently and respectfully suggest that most labs have abandoned PVR because it is entirely qualitative and there has been little investigative work in this area for the last 30 years.  I would suggest the following as a helpful reference at least for historical context:
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>>Rutherford RB, Lowenstein DH, Klein MF. Combining segmental systolic pressures and plethysmography to diagnose arterial occlusive disease of the legs. Am J Surg 1979;138:211-218.
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>>All the best
>>Joe
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>>From:UVM Flownet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Ross
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 10:42 PM
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>>Subject: Re: PVR waveform analysis
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>>Vascular Reference Guide           
>>by Gail P. Size, BS, RVT, RVS, RPhS, FSVU, 
>>Laurie Lozanski, BS, RVT 
>>and 
>>Troy Russo RVT, RVS, RDCS, RDMS
>>  Vascular Reference Guide
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>>Code: UV100
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>>by Robert P. Scissons, RVT
>>This is a "must read" for anyone involved with the noninvasive assessment of vascular disorders. This extensively illustrated text provides a wealth of detailed, easy-to-understand information about performing accurate physiological testing procedures in the vascular laboratory. Physiological testing is a vital, primary tool for the initial assessment of peripheral arterial and venous circulatory disorders. Indirect, physiological test procedures offer a relatively inexpensive, technically simple, and highly reproducible means for evaluation of patients with suspected or known arterial occlusive disease or venous insufficiency.
>>The principles of physiological testing are presented in a detailed, descriptive manner related to examination protocols. 
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>>•Overview of arterial and venous disease
>>•Differential diagnosis of extremity pain
>>•Stress testing
>>•Arterial and venous hemodynamics 
>>•Recording devices: problems, limitations, and controversy
>>•Testing protocols for upper and lower extremities 
>>•Waveform and pressure analysis pp. 43-79
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>>•Illustrated case studies 
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>>From: UVM Flownet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Dawn Stirrat
>>Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2013 7:26 PM
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>>Subject: PVR waveform analysis
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>>Hello my vascular gurus!  
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>>I was having a discussion with a friend about pvr waveforms and how there are so many ways to describe them.  Does anyone have a good reference that describes them?
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>>thanks,
>>Dawn
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