The only "conspiracist ravings" here are those who like to
label everything they don't understand or agree with, as "conspiracy
Funny, we'd all probably end up in the same demonstrations and take the
same political stances on most global issues. ... and maybe even like
each other when we meet.
But to dismiss out of hand the things that at least some of us find to be
important and, yes, credible, and to assign labels to them -- the better
to NOT hear, and to trivialize those views -- is quite tragic.
I welcome the contesting of information I post. I come here, unlike many
others who've been driven away, specifically to hear the socialist
scientists' critiques of that information, and I often modify what I
write based on those critiques. But the conspiracy mongering labels are
just soooo pathetic and foolish.
I am not aware of ignoring any "posting limits". The recent
posts on Fukushima and flu-shots seem to be well within the framework for
At 11:30 AM 10/25/2013, Carrol Cox wrote:
Were the list more active, and
were the posting limits enforced,
Conspiracist ravings would not bulk so large. But the list has been
relatively inactive, MC has ignored posting limits, and the archives of
list will now present a very strange image of "science for the
recent huckstering of Gary Null's dangerous nonsense was
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Subject: Re: West Coast Horror: Fried With Nuclear Radiation From
Also note that the "Yale professor" quoted with respect to #28
one) is emeritus professor of sociology. This is a common and very
irritating bogus use of academic credentials to make a claim appear
scientific. If the list-producer were responsible, he would have
"sociologist" along with (or instead of) "Yale."
Instead, he wanted us to be
impressed by the elite authority of "Yale" while hiding the
fact that the
quoted source has no actual claim to scientific expertise on the subject
Associate Professor, History Department
Director, Social Thought & Political Economy Program UMass Amherst
10/25/2013 3:54 AM, Steve Nadel wrote:
separate out what is scare mongering and what has any
validity in such a list is itself a herculean effort.
think it is important for people to read the attached
article describing the working conditions and organization of the
effort, which exposes the very real dangers of relying on such a
corporate/mafioso (in the literal sense unfortunately, see article)
system as in Japan to manage such a disaster.
On Oct 25,
2013, at 12:03 AM, Michael H Goldhaber <[log in to unmask]>
As a west coast
resident, I consider this to be
irresponsible scare mongering. On what basis, Mitchell, do you
that "if all of the below is true -- and it well may be
The author, a
lawyer with no particular scientific training,
lumps completely inconsistent claims together with reports that quite
have nothing whatever to do with radiation, such as the remarks
various animals, or barren beaches. All sorts of animals, such as moose,
found near the Pacific, have undergone severe problems in recent
problems that often antedate Fukushima, and , if linked to any global
are far more likely a consequence of global warming.
such ill-analyzed scare articles is no public
service but rather the opposite. It blinds people to real problems and
them take possibly dangerous and certainly unnecessary actions to
what well may be no danger. A similar irresponsible claim is the one
made recently with regard to flu vaccine. Flu kills many people every
and flu vaccine often offers protection, if not certain immunity. Those
listen to you may die as a result. Please consider that.
On Oct 24, 2013,
at 8:55 PM, Mitchel Cohen
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
- Remembering Che Guevara on this 46th anniversary of his assassination
(Oct. 9, 1967)
- Bill De Blasio and Nicaragua -- a refutation of the corporate
- New Petition to Free Lynne Stewart
- "I ain't gonna fight Obama's wars no more" (song)
- "Lawrence Summers to head the Fed? You've got to be kidding!"
Check it out.
Mitchel Cohen's book, "What Is Direct Action? Lessons from (and
to) Occupy Wall Street" (foreword by Richard Wolff) (596 pages). Get
Ring the bells that still can ring, Forget your perfect offering.
There is a crack, a crack in everything, That's how the light gets
~ Leonard Cohen