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+1 for cloud storage. Our 1:1 students have everything in GAFE, and keeping
data separate from the devices makes maintenance (eg. imaging) a much
easier proposition. Moving STAFF to the cloud will take time but we're
getting there, and there will likely always be office/Admin staff with
special needs that will be tied to local storage, either machine or network.

*Eric Hall*
*Technology Integration Specialist*
*Mount Mansfield Union High School*
*Chittenden East SU*

*No trees were injured in the creation of this message, but a significant
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On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 11:30 AM, Craig Lyndes <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Amanda,
>
> I can't agree more.
>
> When people develop personal habits that assure their work is backed up
> using cloud resources that they can access from anywhere then they are
> empowered and self sufficient.
>
> Backup is one of the hidden costs of the old IT model.  Once you evaluate
> every dollar spent on how well it supports the students' learning there are
> so many other things to spend the school's resources on that give you a
> bigger return than expensive server backup systems.
>
> We use drive images as our front line support strategy.  It is amazing and
> reassuring that whenever we need to reimage students' or teachers' 1:1
> computers there is no problem with files being lost.  Cloud computing has
> changed everything.
>
> Craig Lyndes
> St Albans City School
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 11:03 AM, Amanda Bickford <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Just say no.  So many schools are spending $10,000+  for back up drives,
>> That is a 1:1 for a classroom.    Here at MEMS we believe it should not be
>> IT staffs responsibility to keep track of peoples files.  We want our users
>> /students to learn the skills of proper file management, and not relied on
>> a magic  IT elf  to keep their files for them.
>>
>> Plus, think of the network traffic all those backups are causing.
>>
>>  We stopped backing up all staff and student files over 3 years ago and
>> have not had a single problem.  We provide training each year on how staff
>> and students can back up their files to Google Drive, or other sources
>> (thumb drives, ipods, etc).  We found that none of our staff had school
>> files bigger then what google drive could handle.  The bigger files were
>> often personal photos, music, movies etc.  For those staff we showed them
>> how they could buy a personal hard drive to back up their data.
>>
>> The only exceptions were our music department and our office staff, who
>> have a school bought hard drive to back up too.
>>
>> This has been a win -win.  I get to spend more time with my students
>> everyday and we saved money.
>>
>> -Amanda Bickford
>> Manchester Elementary Middle School
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Leslie, Ben <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm still using BE to backup some data (mainly Active Directory data) to
>>> our SAN and Carbonite, I personally would not trust an external hard drive
>>> as the primary backup device for mission critical data.
>>>
>>> Ben
>>>
>>> Ben Leslie
>>> Technology Manager, BVSU
>>> P: 802-375-2589 ext. 139
>>> P: 802-375-6409 ext. 217
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:35 AM, David Martin <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When our tape drive went I configured BackupExec to backup to a folder
>>>> on an Ext HDD. Works slick.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David Martin
>>>>
>>>> Network Administrator O.S.S.U.
>>>>
>>>> 157 Daniels Road
>>>>
>>>> Hardwick VT 05843
>>>>
>>>> Office 802.472.6531 Ext 24
>>>>
>>>> Cell 802.595.2733
>>>>
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:27 AM, Leslie, Ben <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for all the input, we used to use BackupExec to backup all data
>>>>> on our SAN (including VM images, AD data, and everyone's redirected 'my
>>>>> documents') however our tape drive failed and I was given no choice but to
>>>>> use Carbonite to backup all 600GB of data.
>>>>>
>>>>> At 3-4GB of data per day (I'm assuming Carbonite throttles their data
>>>>> throughput) our initial backup will be complete sometime in mid February.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Ben Leslie
>>>>> Technology Manager, BVSU
>>>>> P: 802-375-2589 ext. 139
>>>>> P: 802-375-6409 ext. 217
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Craig Donnan <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Second on Barracuda Appliance.  Model 390 for Central office only
>>>>>> right now.  Support for VM ware allows for backup of the vm image file and
>>>>>> send off site.  Will probably be using Barracuda at the high school if
>>>>>> approved.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Craig Donnan, MA
>>>>>> Systems Administrator
>>>>>> Washington West Supervisory Union
>>>>>> 340 Mad River Park, Suite 7
>>>>>> Waitsfield, VT 05673
>>>>>> 802-496-2272 x120
>>>>>> fax: 802-496-6515
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Mike Kanfer <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At CSSU, use the Barracuda appliance.  We have two- one backs up CVU
>>>>>>> and Hinesburg and the other one backs up Williston, Shelburne, Charlotte
>>>>>>> and Central office- all through our VPN's.  Each backs up about 2TB of
>>>>>>> data. The first time it runs, a full backup is done and can take several
>>>>>>> days to protect bandwidth but after that, a file server is backed up in
>>>>>>> anywhere from 10 minutes to 25 minutes since it does incremental backups.
>>>>>>>  We backup select folders for databases on workstations of admin assistants
>>>>>>> in addition to the regular server stuff.  From the appliance, the data
>>>>>>> backs up to Barracuda's cloud for offsite storage of our data.  Managing it
>>>>>>> is done through a web browser- restoring files could not be easier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Ben Leslie <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just out of curiosity, what is everyone doing for data
>>>>>>>> backup...tape drive, cloud storage, leaving it up to students/faculty to
>>>>>>>> backup their own data?  What about databases and other data that's more IT
>>>>>>>> admin related and not faculty/student work files?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When you do full backups of your data sets, approximately how much
>>>>>>>> data are you backing up?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> Ben Leslie
>>>>>>>> IT Manager, BVSU
>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>
>> --
>> Amanda Bickford
>>
>
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