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That's it !I knew I read it somewhere and couldn't remember where . Thanks so much .

On Feb 4, 2014 8:25 AM, "Simons, Donald" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

There was recently an article pertaining to this in the December 2013 issue of the SVU’s Journal for Vascular Ultrasound. The article title is:  Description of a Phenomenon Resembling Spontaneous Echocardiographic Contrast in the Venous System.  There is a CME quiz for it in this issue if anyone is interested.

 

Don

 

From: UVM Flownet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Audrey Fleming
Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2014 6:36 AM
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Subject: Re: Terminology

 

And with the new equipment (compared to the olden days of yore) we can see much more detail. This has been around since real-time scanning was first performed. It's just that we have the resolution to see it more often now.

 

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Sent: Tuesday, February 4, 2014 2:47 AM
Subject: Re: Terminology

 

This is usually caused by an increase in protein.  It can be caused by cancer, infection, and I believe diabetes, it is not always an indication of venous problems specifically. People can present with rouleaux flow and not have clot/disease, they just have slow, sluggish flow.

 

 

On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 1:39 AM, Bill Johnson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

As in a "roll of the dice?"

 

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:37 AM, Bill Johnson <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I believe Travis is correct.  The first time I saw it I was sure I was seeing clots form before my eyes.  Not so sure now, but when blood cells stack up on one another, I cannot think anything good comes from that.  Especially if they are going downstream into a narrowed vessel. And flowing against an endothelium that is doing all it can to ward off inflammation? How can that be helpful?.  It is not about the "smoke." It is, to my mind, but more about the "mirrors". 

 

There are many more folks on this list that can educate us about this "phenomenon" than I.  I hope they chime in.

 

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:09 AM, Travis Bille <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

That would be Rouleaux formation, I believe



On Monday, February 3, 2014, S Ewing <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

What it the term used to describe the highly viscous  appearing venous  flow ? In echo it was called smoke.  Thanks in advance.  Sharen Ewing ,BS RVT RDCS.

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