while Steamboat is a big (and expensive $119 lift tix) touristy resort, and
not usually the type of place I choose for a ski trip, it totally hit the
spot. It was not crowded. Lots of space. Hardly saw other skiers in many of
the glades we skied. And as already noted...the snow quality and constant
refreshing of the snow each night satisfied my powder cravings. The terrain
did not disappoint either, though nothing was scary steep..

I still prefer Whitewater for glades and snow quality and quantity and the
food is much more enjoyable, not to mention I enjoy the BC ski culture. I
didn't really feel the Steamboat ski culture. Carnival starts today and my
ski week is now over.

I did like that I could fly into Hayden, though it took 3 planes and all
day to do it, it was nice not having to drive for many hours..

We were toying with a Revelstoke trip for this year, but the logistics and
costs were too much for us to manage. Steamboat was a much more manageable
trip for me. My other friends went to Utah. I was happy to go somewhere
different and have such great conditions.

On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 10:24 PM, Leigh Daboll <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>  Yeah, those lame touristy hills in Colorado really s*uck sometimes, eh?.
> I like Steamboat.  I like Vail and BC and maybe even Keystone somewhat
> better.  But, that's in a large part because I have gotten to know their
> secrets so well.
> Colorado has long ruled the NA ski world for a reason - great resorts.,
> great snow, great access.
> Utah may have more powder, and BC may have more gnarl, but for varied yet
> consistently repeatable vacation enjoyment, Colorado is the Windows 7 of
> skiing.  Not always glamorous or cutting edge, but 100% fully functional at
> what it does.
>  *LEIGH *
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Vermont Skiing Discussion and Snow Reports [mailto:
> [log in to unmask]] *On Behalf Of *Sharon Heller
> *Sent:* Friday, February 07, 2014 9:43 PM
> *To:* [log in to unmask]
> *Subject:* Re: [SKIVT-L] Steamboat 2/1-5
>    I was mesmerized by the quality of the snow. So light and dry. The
> mountain was like Jay Peak on steroids. The sidecountry off Pony Express
> was like the Dip. Go out the skier's right boundary, ski down, traverse
> left, and if you go too far, you have to climb out (which we did once).
> I did not see a root anywhere...sure there were some stray limbs and the
> steepest rockiest areas may have shown an easily avoidable rock. There were
> so many wonderful glades either evergreen or aspen.
> On Thursday I skied with a friend who lives there. Due to his sensitivity
> to the cold, he could not ski the upper mountain which IMO had the best
> snow all week. But he showed me some of his stashes off Thunderhead and
> Burgess Creek. It was pretty cold on Thursday, though it was not as brutal
> as it gets here at those near zero temps. I never had to double layer my
> base layers like I do here when it is in the single digits. I didn't even
> need a balaclava, just a neck gaiter.
> Here you can see me becoming one with the glades (photo credit Eric Morton)
> [image: Inline image 1]
> On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 9:47 AM, telenaut <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Here ya go, Ranger.
>> (And just to weigh in... if you prefer expressive language to correct,
>> and I do, patrollerette was exactly the right choice of word in the
>> Ranger's tale. OTOH, of course, if you prefer clean poles to not-so, and I
>> do, keep a ten foot distance--or more--between you and the Ranger's tail.)
>> +++
>> Sad to hear all the VT "woods not ready"s.
>> Steamboat's woods were so-oo ready. It's a big, spread out mountain. Even
>> staying, as we did, above the gondola for 5 days (hope Eric and Sharon had
>> a good day yesterday). Seemed there were these "little" tree shots almost
>> anywhere you looked. "Little" in quotes, because they were only little in
>> relation to the big, wide, long trails. (Exception: there were some little
>> tree shots on far skier's left that really were little, and were followed
>> by a long, long, near-flat runout.)
>> Mostly we stayed skier's right. Favorite might have been a side country
>> run there (thanks, Jerm and EricK) that reminded me, in name and aspect, of
>> MRG's 19th.
>> Big favotite, though, was the snow. There was plenty of it, everywhere.
>> Maybe I saw one rock and one root in 5 days? And two patches of what--if you
>> wanted to be really, really persnickety--you might call "icy." By which I
>> mean you could hear it when you turned on it. Other than that... perfect?!
>> First few days I skied my Lines, and loved their turniness. 4th day I
>> struggled on them. Could have been due to sinking too far into the deeper
>> snow. Or could have been the body slam penalty I took for my poor chairlift
>> skills. Misjudged where the ground was and by the time I realized it was
>> under my feet, it wasn't. Jumped off as the chair began to turn and got
>> thrown harder than expected to the ground. No serious injury, but I didn't
>> ski well the rest of the day.
>> Last day I switched to the CMHs. It was a plus-and-minus tradeoff. They
>> floated well, and their shortness made them easy to whip around (tele or
>> alpine) in tight places. But I really missed the elegant carve of the
>> Lines. (Never more so than when I got going way too fast on a wide groomer.
>> Didn't have the nerve to really dig those edges in hard, and the
>> back-and-forth I was doing served only to keep me from accelerating. Seemed
>> like forever before the pitch and my speed moderated some!) Also took a
>> while to adjust technique. Telegeeks, does this make sense? Turning the
>> CMHs with Superloops had a completely different rear foot feel than turning
>> the Lines with 7TMs. The Lines/7TMs make it easy to keep the ball of your
>> rear foot down. With the CMH/Loops, my rear foot wanted to go up on tippy
>> toe. I had to work harder to weight it down. Sharon informed me that you
>> should always weight your rear foot in a tele turn. That's not the issue.
>> It was that I had to weight it *more* with the Loops.
>> Another tip from Sharon--face downhill--turned out quite timely. Worked on
>> that one quite a bit.
>> Mostly, though, I just followed Eric. He was a terrific navigator and
>> leader. Saved me from having to think too much, and allowed me to just
>> pattern my turns after his smooth, easy-going style of skiing. Quiet upper
>> body, heels and legs swinging like a loose pendulum.
>> Back to the snow. Besides lovely tree skiing, I was surprised over and
>> over how much I enjoyed the open trails. Occasionally a groomer, but
>> especially the cut-up, ungroomed, lightly moguled pitches we seemed to find
>> everywhere. So fun when a little mini-launch in the bumps makes it easier,
>> not harder, to turn.
>> Also enjoyed the recurring, mystical feeling when you'd find yourself on
>> a huge open slope and not another soul in sight.
>> Also enjoyed the little grey snow birds we saw on the backside Sunshine
>> Express lift, and nowhere else. Strange body-shape, almost bumblebee-like
>> with wings that looked--in flight, at least--almost round. They flew
>> surprisingly straight, not loopy like small bird often do, but in a smoth
>> pattern more like you'd expect from a big bird. Only those little round
>> wings were going like crazy, non-stop.
>> Great trip.
>> --tn
>> P.S. Temps. It was cold. Highs in the single digits most days. But so
>> weirdly dry that the cold didn't seep in like you'd expect. If I heard
>> right, some days the "real feel" temp was warmer than the actual. Last day
>> (Wednesday) it did get truly cold, and off the mountain, in Boulder on
>> Thursday, a friend was saying he'd never seen it so cold in his many years
>> there. Standing around waiting for a transfer bus was Broo Tal. Cranked the
>> hotel room temp up to a temp that may impact the nation's fossil fuel
>> reserves. Sorry, people who like unpolluted air.
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