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On April 29, 2014 2:28:53 PM EDT, Geoffrey Duke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Is "cloud signing" like sky writing?  :-P
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Technology Discussion at UVM [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>On
>> Behalf Of Sam Hooker
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:28 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Absurdity in the afternoon... print/sign/scan
>> 
>> 
>> Ah. I think the concern in that case stemmed from someone's use of a
>> "cloud signing service" and the potential to disclose sensitive
>> documents to that service during the signature process. Maybe.
>> 
>> 
>> -sth
>> 
>> --
>> Sam Hooker | [log in to unmask]
>> Information Security Engineer
>> Enterprise Technology Services
>> The University of Vermont
>> 
>> 
>> On 20140429, 12:25 , Lynda Howell wrote:
>> > Maybe I misunderstood.  It was in the context of digitally signing
>> > documents, so it's possible that the point was just that we
>shouldn't
>> > consider it a "digital signature", but I came away with the
>impression
>> > that it was being frowned on as making it easy to forge the
>signature in
>> > the future.  But I probably misunderstood.
>> >
>> > Lynda.
>> >
>> > On 4/29/2014 10:52 AM, Sam Hooker wrote:
>> >> On 20140423, 15:59 , Lynda Howell wrote:
>> >>> I remember some ISO presentation (at last year's EDU@uvm,
>perhaps?)
>> >>> where they talked about people who scanned their signature to an
>image
>> >>> file and used it to sign documents, and it was very much
>something
>> they
>> >>> were telling us not to do.  I assume the issue was that anyone
>can
>> clip
>> >>> the image and paste it into any other document.  But presumably
>anyone
>> >>> can copy a signature image from the printed-out-and-scanned
>document
>> and
>> >>> paste that into another document too.
>> >> Really? That seems...unlike something we would say (especially
>given
>> the
>> >> decidedly-indecorous and involuntary swearing under my breath
>every
>> time
>> >> someone hands me a piece of paper). Is there some context?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >>
>> >> -sth
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Sam Hooker | [log in to unmask]
>> >> Information Security Engineer
>> >> Enterprise Technology Services
>> >> The University of Vermont
>> >>
>> >>> On 4/23/2014 2:12 PM, Wesley A. Wright wrote:
>> >>>> Let's take a step back. In the age of the purchase card, why are
>you
>> >>>> asking for cash (paper) ?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Baby step forward. MacOs has a built-on app called Preview that
>> allows
>> >>>> you to use laptop camera to scan you signature and attach it to
>aa
>> >>>> PDF, and fill in the PDF form, too. You can then complete your
>part
>> of
>> >>>> the form, email results to supervisor to do same, and forward
>final
>> >>>> version to accounting, thus at least eliminating the paper bit.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Sent from my iPad
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Apr 23, 2014, at 1:46 PM, Geoffrey Duke
><[log in to unmask]
>> >>>> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> I don't know why the current situation exists, and I don't mean
>to
>> >>>>> offend anyone involved in the support of this process,  *but.*
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> I'm going on a business trip in a couple weeks, and I've
>requested a
>> >>>>> cash advance. In order to complete this request, my supervisor
>needs
>> >>>>> to approve this request. I have received an email with a PDF
>> >>>>> attachment that I need to print out, get my supervisor to sign,
>then
>> >>>>> scan that into a PDF and email it back.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Why is the current process not using our $38M ERP system? It's
>been
>> a
>> >>>>> while since I went through this process, but I seem to recall
>using
>> >>>>> PeopleSoft to make this kind of request in the past.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Somehow, this feels dirtier to me than if we were really using
>the
>> >>>>> paper. I'm having to print something out just to turn around
>and
>> >>>>> discard it? This is so wasteful of both time, energy, and
>resources.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> How much does a business workflow cost that depends on every
>> business
>> >>>>> unit having to print/sign/scan send all financial documents?
>Please,
>> >>>>> somebody tell me that there's a plan to change this.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> And what does printing/scanning ensure? It's much easier for me
>to
>> >>>>> forge my supervisor's signature on a paper document than it
>would be
>> >>>>> to fake an electronic approval, either by an email message or a
>> >>>>> PeopleSoft transaction (i.e., click "approve"). And there are
>audit
>> >>>>> trails for those options.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Is it just me or is this business process really as absurd as
>it
>> >>>>> seems?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> --Geoff
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Geoffrey Duke
>> >>>>> 802.656.1172 | Sr System Administrator
><http://www.uvm.edu/%7Egcd>|
>> >>>>> Enterprise Technology Services <http://www.uvm.edu/ets>|
>University
>> >>>>> of Vermont <http://www.uvm.edu/>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> > *Support has ended* for Windows XP
>> >>>>> <http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows/end-support-help>
>and
>> >>>>> Office 2003
>> >>>>> <http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/help/support-is-ending-for-
>> office-2003-HA103306332.aspx>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>

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