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Dear Thomas, can you please give details about your copyright situation it
would really help us all. Thanks Jon
On Jun 18, 2014 4:09 PM, "Thomas Heller" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Just as Shannon, I also had a few videos blocked then restored after I
> disputed them.
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:01 PM, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
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>>
>> 1)  Colchester HS in Southern VT switched their lipdub to vimeo as
>> youtube banned their lipdub.  I would change to Vimeo, but I've found them
>> to be unreliable  (too much down time or video is not available).  Maybe
>> this has changed.
>>
>> 2)  Yes, youtube is monetizing the videos so copyright owners may be
>> getting their cut, at the very least google is getting their cut.
>>
>> 3)  I really like the password idea.   It is right up there with an
>> unlisted video.  I hope it's true
>>
>> 4)  We are doing another lip dub this year . Again it's heavily modified
>> with student input. The kids love it.
>>
>> Thanks for your thoughts.
>> Jon
>> Youtube offers a service called Content ID (
>> https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797370).  Vigilant content
>> providers pay to have their copyrighted materials identified and protected
>> more vigorously than the average content is handled.  All content is not
>> treated equally.  Here's a guide to youtube's possible reactions:
>> https://support.google.com/youtube/troubleshooter/4440751.
>>
>> Think your use falls under fair use protection?  You can dispute the
>> identification:  https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/2797454?hl=en.
>> I've had a couple of videos that have received take down notices or had
>> their soundtrack muted restored after making a claim.
>>
>> Copyright and Fair Use laws do need to be revisited in light of current
>> tech tools.  A great resource for current law and precedent is Renee Hobbs
>> text *Copyright Clarity*.  Well worth reading!
>>
>> Shannon
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Eric Hall <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Trying not to thread-jack, but hopefully relevant... has anyone else had
>>> the experience of audio track being muted on a student project uploaded to
>>> YouTube? In our case these are "multimedia mashups" that may include short
>>> sections of popular music... although we use the 30 sec criteria, I have
>>> seen some audio tracks removed while others with copyrighted music are not.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know what criteria YouTube is using? Are there specific
>>> companies that have registered their content, and some have not? It's hard
>>> to tell why certain pieces have been muted and some have not.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Eric Hall*
>>> *Technology Integration Specialist*
>>> *Mount Mansfield Union High School*
>>> *Chittenden East SU*
>>>
>>>  *No trees were injured in the creation of this message, but a
>>> significant number of electrons were inconvenienced.*
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 6:46 AM, Carole Renca <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have tried to get permission or to offer payment to use popular
>>>> songs/music for education or by our school chorus  (songs that will be part
>>>> of a video and uploaded to the net) and you are correct. ..it is
>>>> amazingly....next to impossible to get permission.  This is because so many
>>>> famous people own the rights to popular songs. There are often multiple
>>>> companies that have to be contacted from all different parts of the country
>>>> and the larger companies do not post contact phone information.  They do
>>>> not answer emails. There are middle organizations that you'd think could
>>>> handle this for you...but when I finally contacted some of them they told
>>>> me I that they don't handle music use for education and to contact the
>>>> companies directly.
>>>>
>>>> I learned that, as a librarian,  I no longer recommend to students to
>>>> get permission to use popular songs for uploaded student created or chorus
>>>> video. I tell them that it is much easier to create their own music or use
>>>> copyright free content for when uploading it to the Internet.
>>>>
>>>> Carole
>>>> On Jun 17, 2014 9:51 PM, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> "Matched Third Party Content"    I ran across this a week or so ago in
>>>>> my youtube account and am curious about group thoughts.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtv3MM8Wycg
>>>>>
>>>>> Song ":Let it Go" by Kindergartner and our Music Teacher.   Before we
>>>>> start, This song is basically a cover.   Nothing from an original
>>>>> recording/mp3. and yet youtube was still able to match for third party
>>>>> content, both impressive and scary.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's use can be considered educational, but it still bugs me that it
>>>>> was tagged.  And, no, we didn't pay for performance rights.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you ever tried to get the rights to cover a popular song and post
>>>>> it?   I have, several times,  It's next to impossible. and when it is
>>>>> possible, you can't afford it.
>>>>>
>>>>> And lets be really honest....Most of our kids are not running up to us
>>>>> waving their hands wildly and saying  Mr. M   I REALLY WANT TO DO A COVER
>>>>> ON THIS COOL SONG I FOUND ON CREATIVE COMMONS.    They want to use their
>>>>> music... the stuff they know.
>>>>>
>>>>> When we post popular music, we usually use a mash up or modify the
>>>>> song.   We also make it unlisted, so you can't find it unless you have a
>>>>> link.
>>>>>
>>>>> Curious as to what you do?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jon
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