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You beast, Larry - rocking it!

Craig Donnan, MA
Systems Administrator
Washington West Supervisory Union
340 Mad River Park, Suite 7
Waitsfield, VT 05673
802-496-2272 x120
fax: 802-496-6515


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Larry Dougher <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Our tech integrationist was cut last year.  So, I decided to create over
> 25 tech PD sessions on subjects the teachers wanted (teaching the
> teachers), staffed by my techs, trying to bring them out of the back rooms
> as someone mentioned.  You can see the schedule here:
> http://www.wsesu.net/wsesu-its-pd
>
> Barring another tech integrationist on-staff, this seemed like the best
> solution coupled with myself working more closely with our curriculum
> director to achieve some ends.
>
> Larry Dougher
> CIO
> Windsor Southeast SU
> On Nov 24, 2014 11:57 AM, "Caleb Clark" <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> Great thread. I'd love to have EdTech courses easier for folks.
>> Especially the one's that have the equivalent of good reviews and are in
>> state, like UVM, Marlboro etc.
>>
>> Our EdTech courses are just now coming up for registration and we're
>> adding an exciting, all online, Maker course (advanced and intro) with
>> Bryant Patten as the instructor tomorrow. I'll email links.
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Lucie deLaBruere <[log in to unmask]
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Listening to this conversation I am reminded of a conversation  in was
>>> in in Taiwan
>>>
>>> My 10 day visit to schools in Taiwan as part of a Global Forum. On a
>>> tour of one school we saw a room filled with Oracle books and other
>>> technical books, and I asked "What do they teach in here".  The answer we
>>> received was "This is where we train teachers who are interested in joining
>>> our Tech staff;  we hire from within our organization and give the teachers
>>> who might want to join us.  We have many candidates who are ready to move
>>> outside the classroom, but have great experience with teachers and students
>>> and also understand our organization and school as a model that is
>>> different than business IT, so our tech staff comes from our teaching
>>> staff.
>>>
>>> I asked "do you have a problem with attrition - once they are trained"
>>>
>>> She answered "Not at all,  these who folks who love school, they just
>>> want a different challenge within the school.  More money in business would
>>> not make them happy.  They love solving problems that relate to schools and
>>> learning.
>>>
>>>
>>> Now this district was large enough to be able to do this individually
>>> and we can't all do this in our small Vermont Schools as individuals.  But
>>> Vermont does have some options and perhaps we can expand those options.
>>>
>>> Marlboro College and UVM both have courses that lead to licensure in
>>> Tech Integration.  Wondering if we need to add  a couple more 'under the
>>> hood" courses to those strands?
>>>
>>> Vita-learn has been doing more work with  meeting the needs of the
>>> technical staff in our state.   Wondering if we could establish some goals
>>> as an organization that helped teachers interested in more high tech skills
>>> to complement their pedagogical aptitude.
>>>
>>> Many of us who have served as techintegration specialist for several
>>> years have expressed an interest in  higher level courses to increase our
>>> own learning.
>>>
>>> Great conversation.. love it when the dialogue stirs up on this amazing
>>> network.
>>>
>>> Lucie
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Craig Donnan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Susan,
>>>>
>>>> Beyond UNDERSTAND the challenges that teachers/integrators face,
>>>> technical staff needs to SERVE the curriculum needs (the basic mission of
>>>> schools) as FIRST priority.
>>>>
>>>> If the priorities are straight, and the people can communicate
>>>> effectively across these roles, then maybe that can go a long way toward
>>>> making the enterprise work effectively.
>>>>
>>>> Solution to lack of good applicants for Tech Integration?  We need to
>>>> write some articles for the mainstream press like VPR etc that market the
>>>> role and the training process.  And - society needs to value education
>>>> enough so that these kinds of jobs are compensated well and that there is
>>>> confidence in the system as a whole, given school consolidation questions
>>>> etc, that the jobs are sustainable and long-term.
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>> Craig Donnan, MA
>>>> Systems Administrator
>>>> Washington West Supervisory Union
>>>> 340 Mad River Park, Suite 7
>>>> Waitsfield, VT 05673
>>>> 802-496-2272 x120
>>>> fax: 802-496-6515
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Susan Briere <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Amy is describing the reality we are struggling with. I believe tech
>>>>> support/network admins have a responsibility to understand the challenges
>>>>> that teachers face integrating technology into instructional practice and
>>>>> to be empathetic to their evolving roles. So, I'm not condoning traditional
>>>>> techs who are viewed as isolated, non-communicators who treat their users
>>>>> condescendingly. RNESU will continue to expect their tech support personnel
>>>>> to work directly with teachers, and students, when the situation warrants.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wholeheartedly agree that Technology Integration endorsements are
>>>>> extremely valuable and integrating technology goes way beyond just know how
>>>>> to do something. I would love for our district to have a technology
>>>>> integration position. Truth is, when we did advertise a full-time position
>>>>> for integration we were unable to fill it. I spoke with others at Vermont
>>>>> Fest recently, who are having the same problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> What's the solution?
>>>>>
>>>>> Susan Briere
>>>>> Coordinator, IT Services
>>>>> Rutland Northeast Supervisory Union
>>>>> (802) 247-5757
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Amy Hoffman <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am a member of the team that this person will be joining.  Our
>>>>>> district does not have a position that specializes in technology
>>>>>> integration, much as we would like to have one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We all do some of everything.  Not just network administration.  Not
>>>>>> just Windows support.  Not just multimedia support.  And we all end up
>>>>>> doing some integration stuff, qualified or not.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The one thing we don't have to deal with is boredom!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Craig Donnan <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> All -
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I agree with Larry - schools thinking that they can combine these
>>>>>>> two roles successfully - integration - and tech support - when each has
>>>>>>> vastly different knowledges, aptitudes, temperamental needs, etc should not
>>>>>>> be confused.  I have seen it very rarely that a technology teacher role can
>>>>>>> effectively manage and plan complex networks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also think it is incorrect to place any kind of hierarchy as to
>>>>>>> value to the two roles - both are highly skilled, professional roles.  And
>>>>>>> - they are very different - I think the tech folks understand this, but
>>>>>>> perhaps not Principals, and I think we are essentially all in agreement
>>>>>>> here in this thread.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Craig Donnan, MA
>>>>>>> Systems Administrator
>>>>>>> Washington West Supervisory Union
>>>>>>> 340 Mad River Park, Suite 7
>>>>>>> Waitsfield, VT 05673
>>>>>>> 802-496-2272 x120
>>>>>>> fax: 802-496-6515
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Larry Dougher <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Elizabeth,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe RNESU needs a "tech support" position rather than a "tech
>>>>>>>> integration" position (hence the 65/35 breakout).  Moreover, I would argue
>>>>>>>> that "Windows Server 2008/2012, Window 7/8 desktops/laptops, Windows AD
>>>>>>>> networking, and supporting mobile technologies. Experience with Linux
>>>>>>>> servers and VMWare a plus" is more than just "simply knowing how to setup
>>>>>>>> and use devices and apps."  Sounds more like a network/systems admin
>>>>>>>> position.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My .02,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Larry Dougher*
>>>>>>>> Chief Information Officer
>>>>>>>> Information Technology Services <http://its.wsesu.net>
>>>>>>>> Windsor Southeast Supervisory Union <http://wsesu.net>
>>>>>>>> 127 State Street, Windsor, VT 05089
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>>>>>>>> Twitter <http://twitter.com/larrydougher> | LinkedIn
>>>>>>>> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/larrydougher> | (802) 674-8336
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Elizabeth McCarthy <
>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Susan,
>>>>>>>>> I wonder when the role of "technology integration" shifted to
>>>>>>>>> "tech support" and IT? I don't mean to be pointing at just your job posting
>>>>>>>>> but rather to address the broader issue of the  "technology integration
>>>>>>>>> endorsement" as part of a teacher license, and the fact that it is not a
>>>>>>>>> requirement in schools. There is clearly a difference between "technology
>>>>>>>>> support" and "technology integration," those who have gone through the
>>>>>>>>> state license/endorsement requirements have a much deeper understanding and
>>>>>>>>> knowledge skill than simply knowing how to setup and use devices and apps.
>>>>>>>>> Again, sorry if it seems I'm pointing fingers, but I don't think
>>>>>>>>> admin and others are aware of the difference and the importance of not
>>>>>>>>> confusing those two roles.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> *Elizabeth McCarthy, MAT*
>>>>>>>>> *Digital Learning SpecialistGoogle Education Trainer*
>>>>>>>>> Google+google.com/+ElizabethMcCarthy
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.google.com/+ElizabethMcCarthy>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Susan Briere <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Technology Support Specialist*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Rutland Northeast Supervisory Union*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Brandon**, Vermont*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Rutland Northeast SU is seeking a candidate with experience
>>>>>>>>>> providing technical support for Windows Server 2008/2012, Window 7/8
>>>>>>>>>> desktops/laptops, Windows AD networking, and supporting mobile
>>>>>>>>>> technologies. Experience with Linux servers and VMWare a plus.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Job requirements: administer and maintain local area networks,
>>>>>>>>>> install, configure and maintain desktop/ laptop hardware and software, as
>>>>>>>>>> well as support for iPads, Chromebooks, and Android tablets. The position
>>>>>>>>>> is 35% technology integration, 65% technical support.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The successful candidate will provide support for teachers and
>>>>>>>>>> students. Candidates must have excellent interpersonal skills, a good work
>>>>>>>>>> ethic, and be a team player. This position supports multiple locations and
>>>>>>>>>> requires a driver’s license, as well as the ability to lift/move equipment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please apply through schoolspring.com (should be posted this
>>>>>>>>>> a.m.) or send letter of interest, resume, 3 current letters of
>>>>>>>>>> recommendation and copies of current certifications to:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Susan Briere
>>>>>>>>>> Coordinator, IT Services
>>>>>>>>>> Rutland Northeast Supervisory Union
>>>>>>>>>> 49 Court Drive Brandon, VT 05733
>>>>>>>>>> (802) 247-5757 ext 24
>>>>>>>>>>
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>> Marlboro College Graduate and Professional Studies.
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