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You beast, Larry - rocking it!

Craig Donnan, MA
Systems Administrator
Washington West Supervisory Union
340 Mad River Park, Suite 7
Waitsfield, VT 05673
802-496-2272 x120
fax: 802-496-6515


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 1:19 PM, Larry Dougher <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Our tech integrationist was cut last year.  So, I decided to create over 25 tech PD sessions on subjects the teachers wanted (teaching the teachers), staffed by my techs, trying to bring them out of the back rooms as someone mentioned.  You can see the schedule here: http://www.wsesu.net/wsesu-its-pd

Barring another tech integrationist on-staff, this seemed like the best solution coupled with myself working more closely with our curriculum director to achieve some ends.

Larry Dougher
CIO
Windsor Southeast SU

On Nov 24, 2014 11:57 AM, "Caleb Clark" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Great thread. I'd love to have EdTech courses easier for folks. Especially the one's that have the equivalent of good reviews and are in state, like UVM, Marlboro etc. 

Our EdTech courses are just now coming up for registration and we're adding an exciting, all online, Maker course (advanced and intro) with Bryant Patten as the instructor tomorrow. I'll email links. 

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:55 AM, Lucie deLaBruere <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Listening to this conversation I am reminded of a conversation  in was in in Taiwan

My 10 day visit to schools in Taiwan as part of a Global Forum. On a tour of one school we saw a room filled with Oracle books and other technical books, and I asked "What do they teach in here".  The answer we received was "This is where we train teachers who are interested in joining our Tech staff;  we hire from within our organization and give the teachers who might want to join us.  We have many candidates who are ready to move outside the classroom, but have great experience with teachers and students and also understand our organization and school as a model that is different than business IT, so our tech staff comes from our teaching staff. 

I asked "do you have a problem with attrition - once they are trained"

She answered "Not at all,  these who folks who love school, they just want a different challenge within the school.  More money in business would not make them happy.  They love solving problems that relate to schools and learning.


Now this district was large enough to be able to do this individually and we can't all do this in our small Vermont Schools as individuals.  But Vermont does have some options and perhaps we can expand those options. 

Marlboro College and UVM both have courses that lead to licensure in Tech Integration.  Wondering if we need to add  a couple more 'under the hood" courses to those strands? 

Vita-learn has been doing more work with  meeting the needs of the technical staff in our state.   Wondering if we could establish some goals as an organization that helped teachers interested in more high tech skills to complement their pedagogical aptitude.  

Many of us who have served as techintegration specialist for several years have expressed an interest in  higher level courses to increase our own learning.  

Great conversation.. love it when the dialogue stirs up on this amazing network. 

Lucie


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Craig Donnan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Susan,

Beyond UNDERSTAND the challenges that teachers/integrators face, technical staff needs to SERVE the curriculum needs (the basic mission of schools) as FIRST priority.

If the priorities are straight, and the people can communicate effectively across these roles, then maybe that can go a long way toward making the enterprise work effectively.

Solution to lack of good applicants for Tech Integration?  We need to write some articles for the mainstream press like VPR etc that market the role and the training process.  And - society needs to value education enough so that these kinds of jobs are compensated well and that there is confidence in the system as a whole, given school consolidation questions etc, that the jobs are sustainable and long-term.

Craig

Craig Donnan, MA
Systems Administrator
Washington West Supervisory Union
340 Mad River Park, Suite 7
Waitsfield, VT 05673


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Susan Briere <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Amy is describing the reality we are struggling with. I believe tech support/network admins have a responsibility to understand the challenges that teachers face integrating technology into instructional practice and to be empathetic to their evolving roles. So, I'm not condoning traditional techs who are viewed as isolated, non-communicators who treat their users condescendingly. RNESU will continue to expect their tech support personnel to work directly with teachers, and students, when the situation warrants.

I wholeheartedly agree that Technology Integration endorsements are extremely valuable and integrating technology goes way beyond just know how to do something. I would love for our district to have a technology integration position. Truth is, when we did advertise a full-time position for integration we were unable to fill it. I spoke with others at Vermont Fest recently, who are having the same problem.

What's the solution?

Susan Briere
Coordinator, IT Services
Rutland Northeast Supervisory Union

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Amy Hoffman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
I am a member of the team that this person will be joining.  Our district does not have a position that specializes in technology integration, much as we would like to have one.

We all do some of everything.  Not just network administration.  Not just Windows support.  Not just multimedia support.  And we all end up doing some integration stuff, qualified or not.

The one thing we don't have to deal with is boredom!

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:47 AM, Craig Donnan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
All - 

I agree with Larry - schools thinking that they can combine these two roles successfully - integration - and tech support - when each has vastly different knowledges, aptitudes, temperamental needs, etc should not be confused.  I have seen it very rarely that a technology teacher role can effectively manage and plan complex networks.

I also think it is incorrect to place any kind of hierarchy as to value to the two roles - both are highly skilled, professional roles.  And - they are very different - I think the tech folks understand this, but perhaps not Principals, and I think we are essentially all in agreement here in this thread.

Craig

Craig Donnan, MA
Systems Administrator
Washington West Supervisory Union
340 Mad River Park, Suite 7
Waitsfield, VT 05673


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Larry Dougher <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Elizabeth,

Maybe RNESU needs a "tech support" position rather than a "tech integration" position (hence the 65/35 breakout).  Moreover, I would argue that "Windows Server 2008/2012, Window 7/8 desktops/laptops, Windows AD networking, and supporting mobile technologies. Experience with Linux servers and VMWare a plus" is more than just "simply knowing how to setup and use devices and apps."  Sounds more like a network/systems admin position.

My .02,

Larry Dougher
Chief Information Officer
Information Technology Services
Windsor Southeast Supervisory Union
127 State Street, Windsor, VT 05089
Email | Google+Twitter | LinkedIn | (802) 674-8336


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 9:09 AM, Elizabeth McCarthy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi Susan,
I wonder when the role of "technology integration" shifted to "tech support" and IT? I don't mean to be pointing at just your job posting but rather to address the broader issue of the  "technology integration endorsement" as part of a teacher license, and the fact that it is not a requirement in schools. There is clearly a difference between "technology support" and "technology integration," those who have gone through the state license/endorsement requirements have a much deeper understanding and knowledge skill than simply knowing how to setup and use devices and apps. 
Again, sorry if it seems I'm pointing fingers, but I don't think admin and others are aware of the difference and the importance of not confusing those two roles.  


Elizabeth McCarthy, MAT
Digital Learning Specialist
Google Education Trainer


On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 8:36 AM, Susan Briere <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Technology Support Specialist

Rutland Northeast Supervisory Union

Brandon, Vermont


Rutland Northeast SU is seeking a candidate with experience providing technical support for Windows Server 2008/2012, Window 7/8 desktops/laptops, Windows AD networking, and supporting mobile technologies. Experience with Linux servers and VMWare a plus.

Job requirements: administer and maintain local area networks, install, configure and maintain desktop/ laptop hardware and software, as well as support for iPads, Chromebooks, and Android tablets. The position is 35% technology integration, 65% technical support.

The successful candidate will provide support for teachers and students. Candidates must have excellent interpersonal skills, a good work ethic, and be a team player. This position supports multiple locations and requires a driver’s license, as well as the ability to lift/move equipment.

Please apply through schoolspring.com (should be posted this a.m.) or send letter of interest, resume, 3 current letters of recommendation and copies of current certifications to:

Susan Briere
Coordinator, IT Services
Rutland Northeast Supervisory Union
49 Court Drive Brandon, VT 05733

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