sorry, it's unclear in my post that I am saying YES to the big red box query! about reporting all species. ---- On Sat, 01 Nov 2014 11:06:42 -0700 Veer Frost<[log in to unmask]> wrote ---- I have been submitting my still present Carolina Wren sightings, although twice I only heard the song (right outside my window); in the latter case I said YES as I wasn't trying to find birds at that moment. Should such 'by ear' instances be reported as 'incidental'? Thank you! Veer ---- On Wed, 15 Oct 2014 07:27:57 -0700 Kent McFarland&lt;[log in to unmask]&gt; wrote ---- Hi Birders, We wanted to alert all of you to some changes that have been made on eBird in the data submission process. You might have noticed recently three changes in the eBird submission process. (a) There is now a "historical" category added to the list of types of observations. It is for observations for which effort measures are not available. This is for use by birders putting into eBird their records from years before there was eBird, and often those effort measures (number of observers, duration, distance, and/or area) were not documented in those days. Providing the "historical" category simplifies eBird data for its major analytical purposes. (b) When you select "incidental" as your type of observation, eBird automatically selects “No” for the question about "complete checklists". Thus you no longer can have a checklist that is both "incidental" and "complete". This resolves a common misunderstanding about what an "incidental" checklist is. (c) And, if you submit a checklist with only one species and select "Yes" for the question"Are you submitting a complete checklist of the birds you were able to identify?" a big red box appears and asks you if it really is a complete checklist. The big red box question states: "You have reported fewer than five taxa on a complete checklist of birds. Answering 'yes' to 'Are you reporting all species?' implies that an effort was made to record all species present, not just highlight species. Please confirm that you understand this question or change it to 'no' if it was not an effort to record all species present." {The reference to five taxa is a typo and will soon be changed to say "one species"} The "complete checklist" question is very important in the application of eBird records in many analyses and applications of the data. For example, any questions about which birds are common and which rare requires that there is an effort to record all species detectable. It extends to all checklists, not just those with a single species. The lists of species are based on the observer putting in some effort to record all species that they were able to identify by sight and/or sound. "Identify" means to name the species, or use a category such as Lesser/Greater Scaup, Larus sp., dabbling duck, etc. as provided by eBird. However, eBird has discovered that the Yes/No question was widely misunderstood and incorrectly answered. For example, they discovered that tens of thousands of checklists recorded as "complete" for a Snowy Owl, or other charismatic uncommon species, contained only that one species and none of the other surrounding birds ... even if other species were in photographs submitted. This really made a mess of the data and rendered them generally unusable for the basic eBird analyses. Thus, to answer "Yes, this is a complete checklist" you should have "made an effort to record all species present." In practice this means to record all the birds you were able to detect by the common methods used by the birding community, and to identify them to species or group as noted above. Also, thankfully, it does not mean that specialized methods such as mist netting, baiting, calling, stationary cameras, radar, etc. are necessary. It also does not mean that you must spend any certain amount of time, cover any specific acreage, travel a standard distance or increase the number of observers .... since the effort measures capture all the variety of everyday birding outings, and make the eBird data we all collect useful for countless analyses locally and worldwide. Thanks for your contributions to eBird. Kent McFarland and the county coordinators at Vermont eBird Special thanks to county coordinator Ian Worley for getting this information together. ____________________________ Kent McFarland Vermont Center for Ecostudies PO Box 420 | Norwich, Vermont 05055 802.649.1431 x2 ____________________________________ Veer Frost, Passumpsic (NEK) ____________________________________ And I know my work is good. Not everybody likes it, that's fine. I don't do it for everybody. Or anybody. I do it because I can't not do it. Maurice Sendak Dwell in the Essential. I Ching