Thank you everyone will digest and regurgitate at 6:00 PM when day is done
and submitting my billing,Oh and my 1:00 patient a prior iliac angioplasty
and bil CFA Atherectomy!!! Rescheduled,,
Denise

On Wednesday, June 29, 2016, Steve Knight <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Correct on the Ax-fem:
> 93931, 93926 and 93922 (but cw and/or pvr waveforms of both arms)
>
> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Jeff Stanley <[log in to unmask]
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote:
>
>> Ya definitely don’t wanna leave money on the table.
>>
>> In our lab we go back and forth between 93979 and 93926.  Never really
>> thought of both.
>>
>> For a right ax-fem-fem:  You would then use 93931 and 92926?
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* UVM Flownet [mailto:[log in to unmask]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>] *On Behalf Of
>> *Steve Knight
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 29, 2016 3:59 PM
>>
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>
>> *Subject:* Re: Aorta iliac gem to gem and bil LEA
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeff the origin of a fem-fem is typically the femoral artery (hence it's
>> name - Bazinga! - but you're a tough Preds fan so you will get over that
>> jab).
>>
>> Since the femoral artery is a peripheral artery, it follows that one
>> needs to code its evaluation with 93926 (or -25) in addition to the inflow
>> (93979).
>>
>> To exclude the 93926 would, in my humble opinion, leave earned money on
>> the table.
>>
>>
>>
>> If the bypass was from the iliac to the controlateral femoral then I
>> would omit 93926.
>>
>>
>>
>> ~S
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Jeff Stanley <[log in to unmask]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote:
>>
>> So Steve, if I scan the aorta, right iliac artery system, a right to left
>> fem-fem, outflow left CFA and nothing else more distal, then I can submit
>> 93979 and 93926?  We do add the ABI/93922 as you mentioned.  For fem-fems
>> we bill 93979, with the thinking that it is an iliac artery bypass.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Jeff Stanley BS, RVT*
>> *Vascular Lab Manager*
>> THE SURGICAL CLINIC, PLLC
>> 356 24th Ave North, Suite 300
>> Nashville, TN 37203
>> Phone: 615.301.5261 | Fax: 615.320.3662
>> www.TSClinic.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* UVM Flownet [mailto:[log in to unmask]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>] *On Behalf Of
>> *Steve Knight
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 29, 2016 3:35 PM
>> *To:* [log in to unmask]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>
>> *Subject:* Re: Aorta iliac gem to gem and bil LEA
>>
>>
>>
>> A fem to fem is a lower extremity arterial study.
>>
>> You can bill for the inflow as a 93979 (unilateral/ limited) and then the
>> fem-fem which would be either a 93926 if you only studied the graft and
>> it's outflow or a 93925 if you did a complete bilateral study. And of
>> course ankle waveforms/pressures can also be tacked on (93922).
>>
>> If your facility buys the coding advisor from SVU you will be able to
>> maximize your reimbursement which is particularly troublesome when billing
>> for multiple procedures on the same visit. A link is found here:
>> http://www.svunet.org/practicemanagementmain/advisoryservices/codingsoftware
>>
>>
>>
>> ~S
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Denise Levy <[log in to unmask]
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml',[log in to unmask]);>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, billing question,,
>>
>> Had to combine aorta iliac for a fem to fem
>>
>> 93978
>>
>> Bil legs 93925
>>
>>
>>
>> I usually only bill for the 93978 with fear of them paying the lesser of
>> the two, I know this had been discussed, can someone get back to me with 4
>> hours? The staff messed up today with  2 patients Thanks Denise
>>
>>
>>
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