My bad, I didn't notice the link was the top of the thread. When they talk about the "Elevation Crew", the Elevation is a bar in Chamonix. I believe it is owned by Brits, but it is very popular with the locals. On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Iski Stowe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Turns out Minna and I have common friends on Facebook. > > [image: Inline image 1] > > http://blog.black-crows.com/en/24-05-2016-shattered-spring/ > > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Nathan Bryant <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> >> Right, so who wants in on my Cham trip next year? ;-P >> >> >> On 6/5/2016 9:43 PM, Mark P. Renson wrote: >> >> It's where Trevor Peterson met his demise. So, naturally this descent is >> featured in the film "Edge of Never" which I enjoyed. >> >> Mark P. Renson >> >> >> On Sunday, June 5, 2016 5:38 PM, Nathan Bryant <[log in to unmask]> >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> >> Ya, the Glacier Rond is fall-you-die terrain. It's the big white slope >> above the ice cliff: >> >> >> https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/12771611_10154132792721842_5794931413063923930_o.jpg >> >> Given that it's fall-you-die and 100% lift serviced, if you're not on >> something like Marker Baron/Duke, you'll be on tech bindings with the >> toes locked and praying to God. >> >> It sounds like there's much bad judgment here that the choice of >> bindings is the last of the worries. But that's Cham for you... there's >> always another poodle running around. >> >> On 6/5/2016 9:29 AM, Jonathan S. Shefftz wrote: >> > Even before I switched exclusively to skimo race binding (e.g., >> http://skimo.co/compare-race-bindings), I never had any problems staying >> in regular Dynafit bindings set within the normal chart range (i.e., >> significantly below what I previously used for alpine downhill ski racing). >> > >> > More importantly though, thanks for the link to the Snowheads forum >> post. >> > >> > I had found her blog post previously from a TGR forum post. >> > The commenters there seemed to be nodding along with her conclusion >> that: >> > "i’m paying the price for the recklessness of others, for a failure to >> respect basic mountain rules." >> > ... which I found very puzzling since even based on her own account, >> the situation seems to have been the exact reverse. >> > >> > And indeed here's an account posted at the Snowheads forum to that >> effect: >> > >> > ***** >> > >> > OK time for a rant, or rather saying what the mountain Professionals >> stood next to me on the bridge on the Midi said but will not say in public >> due to business reasons. >> > >> > I was on the bridge on the Midi watching the events in the above >> unfold. Minna got hurt because she and others were very stupid. She did not >> get hit by anyone's slough, she was skiing much to wildly for the location, >> let alone the conditions (and I'll come to that in a min). The person in >> front - about 10 seconds ahead had just crashed spectacularly (something >> not mentioned in any of the blog or similar accounts I've read) so she >> should have already stopped. >> > >> > There was a stupid amount of pushing and shoving getting onto the lift >> in the morning, most of this IMHO was due to pent up frustration at the >> lift opening 2+ hours late - no excuse for the pushing, but none for the >> lift being late either, it was open the day before and we get fresh snow >> 50+ days a year, deal with it CMB the rest of the ski world does. >> > >> > The snow was fresh and deep, but light and heavy from the same storm on >> a sun and rain layer, so risk 4 of 5. >> > The first skiers into the Rond let rip, skiing it as though mid winter >> conditions and lo consequence terrain. Yes they are both very good skiers, >> but AFAIK neither has much avalanche training and one if not both of them >> have had previous near death (as in wake up in hospital many having been >> very luck to be rescued) experiences in the past. >> > >> > There were way to many people trying to ski the Rond, but as for >> pushing and shoving, the second skier of the day was in the second bin, so >> hows that for pushing past everyone! >> > >> > Skiing with your Tech (dynafit) bindings locked in no fall terrain, >> where you are considering one turn at a time can be a sensible option. >> Skiing at speed, regardless of turn size or snow conditions with you toes >> locked out is very stupid and Minna's injuries show. This is exactly what >> my physio said when I broke my ACL (by standing on a pebble ) 19/20 knee >> injuries in the valley are form wrongly used/set bindings. >> > >> > Please be careful out there and don't blame others for your own >> stupidity. >> > >> > On Sun, 5 Jun 2016 07:56:20 -0400, roger Klinger < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> > >> >> Interesting Nate. I, like Denis, refuse to crank them. Din 6.5 for a >> 175 >> >> lb person who is not known for skiing smoothly. Never understood people >> >> cranking them. >> >> >> >> On Sat, Jun 4, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Nathan Bryant <[log in to unmask]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> That seems anomalous, unless your feet are huge. My Dynafit setups >> won't >> >>> stand up to the slightest bit of chatter, even with very smooth >> technique, >> >>> until at least DIN 8. >> >>> >> >>> On 6/4/2016 9:28 PM, Bogandenis wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> What I get from this is that the level of testosterone poisoning was >> >>>> seriously high. >> >>>> >> >>>> My ski mentor, a great skier and wise man, once asked me why in lleh >> was >> >>>> I using DIN 10 when I hadn't raced for years. He said I was far too >> good a >> >>>> skier to do that. He was about 200 lbs. and used a DIN 5.5 for >> teaching >> >>>> and recreational skiing. I was about 190 then and am now about >> 170. I >> >>>> followed suit and have been using 5.5 on both alpine and AT >> (Dynafit) for >> >>>> some 10 years. 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