The volkl kenja's are a great ski for an on piste burner. i think they are 89 under foot so a bit wider than your looking for but not much, similar stiffness to the aura but more trail focused. the new ones are tip and tail rocker so a little extra length is suggested, the older ones were traditional camber so could be a good cheap ski if you find a lightly used pair.

On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Rice, Robert <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



Sideline swap showed up on my FB recently. There might be something there for you.




From: Vermont Skiing Discussion and Snow Reports [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sharon Heller
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I already own the 170 Volkl Auras which are the women's version of the Mantras. Bonafides would be redundant and it would be less stiff than the Auras. I was looking for something around 84mm under foot and a little stiffer for those fast n frozen days. A ski that would be fun at Iceface or at Greek Peak when there is no skiing in the woods because it is all frozen up. The Auras are really fine in most conditions, but I thought if I could find a $200-300 demo ski from one of the last couple of years that is a little stiffer and narrower, I would consider buying, so I was looking for similar skis to demo and came up empty.


Chris' Fire Arrows may be the ticket, though I am hot on the Volkl RTM 84 to round out my quiver.


They only had one ski in a 182 that would have fit the bill and I really didn't want to give up my Aura's for a few runs on a long plank, so I didn't bother. The Auras are pretty nice in most conditions, so I really don't need another ski but it would be nice to have something narrower and stiffer in my quiver for the on-piste days.


On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 10:03 PM, Nathan Bryant <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Don't hold back, try the 177-180 stuff. It's a demo day, it's not a long-term commitment.

With today's rockered designs, these ski easily 7cm shorter than what you might thing. You might be very interested in the 177 Mantras.

Heck, I'll sell you my 180 Bonafides. They ski about like 175 Havocs... better edgehold at speed, but every bit as easy to swing. Too short for me, for big-mountain use. Fine for East Coast.

You could be surprised: I used to ski 175 Havocs. Tried the Volkl 100eight's in the 189 length, on Sunday, and thought they were about right.

On 12/15/2016 2:13 PM, Sharon Heller wrote:

I've never really liked short skis while skiing fast groomers.


On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Iski Stowe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

I guess if they sold a lot of 170s they would have brought some.   So why not demo a 165, not a big difference?


I just got some new GS skis.  At 175cm they are the shortest GS ski I have ever owned.




I wanted to demo some skis on Sunday but none of the reps had the skis I wanted to try in my size. They always try to put me on a women's 165cm...I ski a 170cm and all they had was in the 180s or 150s 160s. You would think 170cm would be a pretty average and popular size, but apparently they didn't think so. That's what you get when it's a "free" demo day I suppose.


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