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Keith & Craig - I have not yet had a request for a Chromebook that runs
Android apps. I don't feel the need to lead in this area.

As a sysadmin I know puts it "I like Chromebooks. I hate everything else."
But given that the devices aren't chosen for what I like, we do use iPads
in K-2. I do hate putting a $50 (stm dux) case on an iPad, but they do end
up pretty invincible.

steve

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Craig Lyndes <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> This is the second year we have had touch chromebooks (with Android
> compatibility).  We got them to replace iPads for our first graders, which
> were being passed down to the PreK/K teams.
>
> We can get about 2.5 chromebooks for the price of 1 ipad.
> They are much easier to manage.
> The kids will be getting chromebooks for their 1:1 in 3rd grade.
>
> Things we noticed that we weren't expecting;
>
> We have not used the Android compatibility, all of the apps we are using
> with the little kids are available in chrome.
> A surprising number of the first graders are using the keyboard, they
> prefer this mode to the folded over tablet mode.
> Keeping the devices in a cart in the classroom has resulted in no damage
> (so far).
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 8:18 AM, Wendy Bruso <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Something to keep in mind that a cracked touch chromebook screen costs
>> $150 for a new screen versus $50-60 for a non-touch screen.
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 8:13 AM, Robert Wickberg <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Oh, I agree with you on that.  There are great cases for chromebooks,
>>> too.  There just aren't any great always on cases for "yoga" style
>>> Chromebooks, which is too bad, because the yoga style strikes me as the
>>> ultimate in versatility if you're going to use Android apps.  It's  laptop
>>> with a keyboard when you need it, and a tablet when you want to put it on
>>> the table and draw on it.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 7:45 AM, Clarena Renfrow <
>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> With regard to the damage Robert mentioned, you can get almost
>>>> indestructible cases for iPads.  I have seen candy cases thrown across the
>>>> room by a child and the iPad had no damage.
>>>>
>>>> *Clarena*
>>>>
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>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 3:28 PM, Robert Wickberg <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We're 1:1 with Chromebooks, I've nothing against touch screens and
>>>>> android apps, but the kids are really hard on these chromebooks. Screens,
>>>>> hinges, keys, cracked shells,...  Buying beefier cases this year seems to
>>>>> have slowed the steady stream of freshmen into my office with damaged
>>>>> Chromebooks quite a bit.  But with the Chromebooks that flip to become
>>>>> tablets, like the Acer R11 that I bought for my use, the kids would have to
>>>>> take the cases off to use them as tablets, and I fear they'll take them off
>>>>> permanently, and my damage rate will soar again.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 3:17 PM, Mark Kline <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In addition to being lighter, the included camera/videocamera on
>>>>>> iPads is a plus. Or be careful to purchase TS CBs that include camera(s)
>>>>>> that face(s) both directions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> FWIW,  /\/\ ark
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Mark Kline, M.Ed.*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Director of Technology*
>>>>>> *White River Valley Supervisory Union*
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Keith Puffer <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Great feedback and concerns.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> @Diane: Most of the usage I see at the younger grades the iPads are
>>>>>>> lying flat on tables.  Do you see this as well or is the weight concern
>>>>>>> prompted out of true mobile use?
>>>>>>> @Diane: Did staff prefer the iPad over the Android tablets for
>>>>>>> reasons other than the app functionality?  If so did they have specific
>>>>>>> concerns or issues "against" the tablets?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks folks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 11:11 AM, Diane Stacy <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, thinking about it but...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Two things to consider:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. Although we have not tried to do this replacement yet --
>>>>>>>> Touchscreen Chromebooks are much heavier than iPads.
>>>>>>>> 2. Many staff are stuck on iPads... some have been given android
>>>>>>>> tablets with the same apps and they still want iPads.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I think a touchscreen chromebook could be a really good device for
>>>>>>>> 2nd grade at least. We are experimenting with a few of these.
>>>>>>>> We try to get 2nd graders on Chromebooks so they have time to get
>>>>>>>> familiar with using it before they have to do SBACs.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Diane
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 9:57 AM, Will Hatch <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm also interested in this topic, as I'm considering replacing
>>>>>>>>> Ipads with touch-screen Chromebooks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 9:48 AM, Keith Puffer <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Good morning.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looking for input from both the hardware and curricular side on
>>>>>>>>>> this (I ALWAYS love hearing from everyone regardless of role).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Anyone had discussions on Chromebook replacement with newer touch
>>>>>>>>>> Chromebooks that support the Android apps with the focus of the discussion
>>>>>>>>>> being a hope to combine two platforms into one?  I see that many iOS apps
>>>>>>>>>> are typically developed and released as Android apps (or perhaps it is the
>>>>>>>>>> other way around).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you see this emerging technology and functionality combining
>>>>>>>>>> the two hardware devices?
>>>>>>>>>> What are your experiences or concerns moving forward with this
>>>>>>>>>> line of thought?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance for any replies on and off list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Keith
>>>>>>>>>>
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