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We began issuing Chromebooks to our teachers as well as their Macs when
their classes went 1-2-1.  The vast majority of the teachers have yet to
personally use the Chromebooks in any meaningful way.  In fact if asked to
bring them to a meeting I'm sure there would be quite a bit of searching
around to find them...

On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Keith Puffer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Dewaine,
>
> We have been working through that process as well (existing
> services/applications not supported on Chrome).  We are looking at having
> Staff keep their Mac while perhaps having a Chromebook as well to explore
> options/replacements, for Smart as example.  With Smart, the licensing we
> have allows users all the services within the suite.  Smart folks have been
> gradually making accommodations for the Chrome users the last several
> years...I will again be optimistic that a true Chrome functionality is in
> the pipeline (however, my last conversation with the Smart folks was
> similar to Apple - tight lipped about future changes/improvements).  I
> would encourage you to take a renewed look at their website.
>
> Special Education services are now (for the most part in our District)
> cloud based.  Any renewals or new purchasing I hope look at web based
> services.
>
> Keith
>
> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Dewaine Fitzherbert <
> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> A very interesting approach, I would head in that direction but I'm
>> curious about the caveats it brings such as using SMART software for
>> teachers or special ed services. Among other specialized software installs
>> not mentioned. Thoughts?
>>
>>
>>
>> Dewaine Fitzherbert
>> District Tech Director
>> Springfield School District
>> W (802)885-7921 <(802)%20885-7921>
>> C (802) 591-0492
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:53 AM, Larry Dougher <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We have made the switch, but we have done it in stages and with a plan.
>>> There has been some push-back, but not nearly as one would expect.  Off the
>>> top of my head, we are probably at 50-60% faculty using Chromebooks.
>>> First, we started this last year with the Acer Chromebook 14 for Work and
>>> this year we went with the HP Chromebook 13 G1.  Both have 8GB RAM and are
>>> significantly "nicer" than student Chromebooks.  Now, for the groups/plan:
>>>
>>> Group A) Teachers that want to switch right away, they swap their
>>> Mac/Win for a teacher Chromebook, no questions asked.
>>> Group B) Teachers that want to test-drive a teacher Chromebook but don't
>>> want to give back their Mac/Win laptop until the end of the school year.
>>> Group C) Teachers that want never want a Chromebook under any
>>> circumstance, they want to retire with their Mac/Win laptop. That's fine,
>>> they can keep it, but they will never get an upgrade. They can move to
>>> Group B or A anytime.
>>> Group D) New teachers automatically get a teacher Chromebook.
>>>
>>> Now, some parts of the success we have had with this plan is that 1) we
>>> eat our own dog food - I, and our IT staff, have been using a Chromebook
>>> exclusively for at least 4-5 years (before we even thought about bringing
>>> this to teachers), so the whole "If I can do it, you can do it" lends some
>>> weight. And 2) Administrators are in the exact same boat.  And right now,
>>> probably half of our Admin team including new principals and our
>>> Superintendent are using Chromebooks.  Finally, the fact that we aren't
>>> mandating a forced switch for everyone (Group C) has helped some of the
>>> heartburn.  Change is difficult, but it can be done.
>>>
>>> Hope that helps,
>>>
>>> Larry
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 8:27 AM Keith Puffer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lucie,
>>>>
>>>> No discussion regarding ergonomics, however, I agree with you that if a
>>>> device is going to be used for extended time each day, then user habits as
>>>> well as device layout could be looked at.  (As someone who has had the
>>>> responsibility in previous employment to look at ergonomics, I think this
>>>> is something that has had very little address in the Educational realm -
>>>> perhaps I just have not been listening for that conversation and
>>>> optimistically oblivious to the subject.)  Keyboard size, distance of the
>>>> keyboard from front edge of device, screen size...all factors in
>>>> ergonomics, and more so is HOW the user interacts with the device,
>>>> especially for extended periods of time.
>>>>
>>>> Students in the schools I support use the CTL NL6 series Chromebook and
>>>> it looks like we will be moving to the J5 for Staff.  I am, again,
>>>> optimistic that the flip/touch Chromebook fits both Staff and Student needs
>>>> in the Chrome and Android markets (keyboarded and tablet dual
>>>> functionality)...we shall see.  My opinion is that we (Staff) should use as
>>>> similar device as possible to what Students use.  Granted, the OS and most
>>>> functionality doesn't change greatly between Chromebook models.  Both are
>>>> 11.6" screen models.
>>>>
>>>> As with any device choice, the user's needs (and habits?) should be
>>>> part of the discussion before purchase.
>>>>
>>>> I look forward to others' comments on this thread.
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Lucie deLaBruere <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Keith you mentioned that you were switching from Mac to Chromebooks
>>>>> for educators..
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm curious if there is a difference between the teacher/student
>>>>> device on the teacher device.  And has anyone tried a Pixel or other high
>>>>> end Chromebook.  Are they worth it?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   The reason I ask is that while I was working directly with students
>>>>> I wanted to make sure that my device was the same as theirs so I would know
>>>>> what their issues are and be able to support them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ergonomics has always been important to me, but even more so since my
>>>>> work now has a different focus and I spend long hours on my computer
>>>>> supporting my online students.  I was having some issues with wrist,
>>>>> shoulder, arm pain - that went away after I started I switched from a
>>>>> cheaper machine or Chromebook to a Mac.
>>>>>
>>>>> Since I live in the cloud,  I think I could use a Chromebook as my
>>>>> main device if it had a keyboard /tract pad and display that were
>>>>> ergonomically designed to meet the long hours I spend on a computer.   I
>>>>> find that the cheap Chromebook I have as my secondary device is challenging
>>>>> for long spells on the computer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just curious if anyone has experience with a Chromebook that has been
>>>>> designed with ergonomics in mind.    Any recommendations welcomed!
>>>>>
>>>>> Lucie
>>>>>
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