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FitnessGram is using TLS that replaces SSL.

I was able to setup a connection to Fitnessgram using FileZilla client.
However I was not able to copy any data. I was able to create files and
folders on the remote site but couldn't drag files from my computer to the
remote site.

I have a support ticket open with them and will let you know what I find.

-Bob Owens

On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Keith Puffer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Bob et al.,
>
> I am not working with this process, however, can you confirm that
> FitnessGram works using FTP and does not work with SFTP?  I read in this
> thread that they do not support FTP (an assumption is that SFTP is included
> in this) but it seems the service is allowed?  Clarification or a
> definitive answer to whether it is "supported" or not might be helpful.
>  If FTP works, a further assumption is that SFTP could also be allowed (but
> perhaps configuration on FitnessGram's side?)
>
> Keith
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 4:26 PM, Bill Fitzgerald <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> From looking at the screenshot, one issue that could be arising is a
>> disconnect between the protocol and the port.
>>
>> FTP generally uses port 21.
>>
>> SFTP generally uses port 22.
>>
>> The screenshot shows the SFTP protocol attempting to use port 21.
>>
>> Two observations:
>>
>> 1. I really hope that they don't support FTP at all - it's an accident
>> waiting to happen.
>> 2. If this works with SFTP/port 22, attempt to connect with FTP/port 21.
>> If you can connect with FTP, that's a flag that there are potentially other
>> security issues.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:04 PM, Bob Owens <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> That's the direction I'm going now.
>>>
>>> PowerSchool (hosted) > Local FTP Server > FitnessGram
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 2:51 PM, Richard Adams <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not sure if you can do this if you are hosted by PowerSchool, but try
>>>> using a CSV autosend to a local server folder, then perform the upload with
>>>> curl.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 2:41 PM, Tina Scheindel <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I also tried this.  I have gotten conflicting stories from the
>>>>> Fitnessgram helpdesk.  I was told that they don't support sftp.  You
>>>>> might want to put in a ticket and see if you get the same answer.  If you
>>>>> can make sftp work through PowerSchool, please share how you get it done.
>>>>> This would be my preferred method.  Fitnessgram is suggesting FileZilla.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 2:31 PM, Bob Owens <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Tina,
>>>>>> I'm trying to set up an FTP session between PowerSchool and
>>>>>> Fitnessgram.
>>>>>> I always get "Operation timed out"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [image: Inline image 2]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 2:20 PM, Tina Scheindel <
>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This came up in my support call as well.  Fitnessgram says we need
>>>>>>> to set the 'time out in' in the PowerSchool Autosend set-up window to 120
>>>>>>> seconds.  Not sure if this will help you or not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:55 PM, Bob Owens <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ​I keep getting "Connection Failed. Operation timed out​."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 28, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Tina Scheindel <
>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I just got off the phone with Fitnessgram support.  The problem
>>>>>>>>> isn't resolved.  However, I did learn something.  Fitnessgram says you
>>>>>>>>> can't cut and paste your credentials from the Fitnessgram import window
>>>>>>>>> into your ftp client.  I was able to connect after typing them in by hand.
>>>>>>>>> I hope that helps someone out there!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 3:01 PM, George Martin <[log in to unmask]
>>>>>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sure thing, Bob!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have students and staff loaded too, but definitely want utilize
>>>>>>>>>> the auto update feature via the FTP...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> George Martin
>>>>>>>>>> District Data Manager
>>>>>>>>>> Champlain Valley School District
>>>>>>>>>> Office: (802) 985-1915
>>>>>>>>>> Google Voice: (802) 382-0077
>>>>>>>>>> www.cvsdvt.org
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>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:25 PM, Bob Owens <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> George,
>>>>>>>>>>> I have my staff and students loaded into FitnessGram and will
>>>>>>>>>>> also be working with the FTP connection.
>>>>>>>>>>> Please let us know when/if you are successful.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 1:19 PM, Tina Scheindel <
>>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Please let me know how it goes George.  Thank you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:54 PM, George Martin <
>>>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been working on it and establishing a connection to their
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FTP server has been challenging for some reason.  I've been back and forth
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with support numerous times and they've finally escalated the issue to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> their "Tier 3" support.  I have many other file transfers setup, with other
>>>>>>>>>>>>> systems, using SFTP/FTP and these are all working fine and were easy to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> setup.  I've had to be persistent with them.  I'll let you know what
>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> George
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> George Martin
>>>>>>>>>>>>> District Data Manager
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Champlain Valley School District
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Office: (802) 985-1915
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Voice: (802) 382-0077
>>>>>>>>>>>>> www.cvsdvt.org
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Tina Scheindel <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if anyone else is working on ftp from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> PowerSchool to Fitnessgram.  While Fitnessgram provides ftp credentials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they say they do not support it.  I have run into some challenges.  Has
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone else made this work?  Can you share the secret?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any clues!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Orange Southwest Supervisory District
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Tina Scheindel, Technology Director and Integration Specialist
>>>>>>>>>>>> Orange Southwest Supervisory District
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>>>>>>>>>>>> Randolph, Vermont 05060
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>>>>>>>>>>> Bob Owens
>>>>>>>>>>> Technology Director
>>>>>>>>>>> Addison Northwest School District
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Tina Scheindel, Technology Director and Integration Specialist
>>>>>>>>> Orange Southwest Supervisory District
>>>>>>>>> 24 Central Street
>>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=24+Central+Street+Randolph,+Vermont+05060&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>>> Randolph, Vermont 05060
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>>>>>>>> Bob Owens
>>>>>>>> Technology Director
>>>>>>>> Addison Northwest School District
>>>>>>>> 11 Main St., Suite B100
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>>>>>>>> Vergennes, VT 05491
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>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Tina Scheindel, Technology Director and Integration Specialist
>>>>>>> Orange Southwest Supervisory District
>>>>>>> 24 Central Street
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=24+Central+Street+Randolph,+Vermont+05060&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>> Randolph, Vermont 05060
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=24+Central+Street+Randolph,+Vermont+05060&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> www.orangesouthwest.org
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Bob Owens
>>>>>> Technology Director
>>>>>> Addison Northwest School District
>>>>>> 11 Main St., Suite B100
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Tina Scheindel, Technology Director and Integration Specialist
>>>>> Orange Southwest Supervisory District
>>>>> 24 Central Street
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>>>>> Randolph, Vermont 05060
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=24+Central+Street+Randolph,+Vermont+05060&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.orangesouthwest.org
>>>>>
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>>> Technology Director
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11 Main St., Suite B100
Vergennes, VT 05491
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