Afinia is good but I find repair parts are expensive. The last printer I purchased was a MonoPrice IIIp mini for $230. It is currently on sale for $199. It travels with me from school to school and has been very reliable. https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-115365-Select-Printer-Filament/dp/B073ZLSMFT/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1522337666&sr=8-3&keywords=monoprice%2Bmini&th=1 On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 1:34 PM, Rodney Batschelet <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > OOPS...images here.. > > > > On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 12:58 PM, Rodney Batschelet <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > >> Shaun, >> >> For multi-part models, I use a couple of methods for assembly. >> >> Goop is what I have found to be the most effective adhesive for >> assembling .abs and .pla parts. It dries clear, is somewhat pliable, even >> when dry but can easily be removed if necessary. I have had very little >> luck with stuff like super glue. Dries too brittle and easily comes apart. >> >> https://www.amazon.com/Amazing-GOOP-140211-Purpose-Adhesive/ >> dp/B008AF1NHQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1520872749&sr=8-1& >> keywords=goop&dpID=51hHWcxldyL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch >> >> I did a T-Rex skeleton model that consisted of over 100 parts, all glued >> together with goop. It took a tumble off of the roof of a car (long story) >> and only one small part (the very tip of the tail) broke off and not even >> at a glue joint, but the plastic itself broke. >> >> >> I have also had good luck with reinforcing connected parts by welding the >> edges together with a soldering iron. I used both of these techniques when >> making the table. >> >> If I were to print up the parts that were attached as samples, I >> would first go into Netfabb and cut those parts in two. Then assemble those >> parts using the above methods. It takes a bit of practice to determine the >> optimal place to cut a part in order to maintain the strength of the part. >> >> One example of this would be the ukulele I printed up and assembled. The >> neck was made of several parts and needed to be stress bearing connections >> because the strings needed to be tightened. I used Goop and welding to get >> that. Here is a look at how that turned out. It plays and sounds great. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Shaun Langevin < >> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> How do you recommend piecing it all together? >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Mark Kline <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>> I don't have much experience with other brands, but I'd like to put in >>>> a plug for Afinia tech support. My experience with them has been just great! >>>> >>>> >>>> *Mark Kline, M.Ed.* >>>> >>>> *Director of Technology* >>>> *White River Valley Supervisory Union* >>>> >>>> *What an individual can learn, and how he s/he learns it, depends on >>>> what models s/he has available.* >>>> * - Seymour Papert, in Mindstorms* >>>> >>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Rodney Batschelet < >>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Shaun, it's always good to run into a fellow Afiniac. I like the >>>>> auto-calibrate feature as well. My first Afinia (H479) did not have that, >>>>> so I got very used to manual calibration using that one. It is good to know >>>>> how to do a manual calibration in case the auto-calibration goes south for >>>>> some reason (but have not had that happen on an H400.) >>>>> I have done a good many multi-part prints in order to produce parts >>>>> that are bigger than the printer area allows for. My biggest multi-part >>>>> print was a full-sized end table. All of the parts were 5x5x5 or smaller. >>>>> That isn't necessarily a project for beginners, though. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Shaun Langevin < >>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> We have an Afinia H400 and I totally agree with Rodney. Very easy to >>>>>> use, though as he said, too small for this print. I haven't had much >>>>>> trouble with it and would add that the auto-calibration is very helpful to >>>>>> me. Regardless of what you do go with, I would only consider a model that >>>>>> can calibrate for you just to save the headache. >>>>>> >>>>>> Shaun >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:57 AM, Rodney Batschelet < >>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have been using the Afinia brand printers for going on 5 years now >>>>>>> and they have always performed well for us. (In fact, I purchased 2 of them >>>>>>> for my own use at home.) The samples that you attached are bigger than >>>>>>> their smaller desktop model will print, however, the H800 is large enough >>>>>>> to print them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://afinia.com/3d-printers/h800/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ease of use and setup ***** Of all of the 3D printers that I >>>>>>> have used, these are the easiest for newbies. The software is very good. >>>>>>> Smell ***** The smell that most folks >>>>>>> don't like is from abs plastics. Pla will give off an odor as well, but it >>>>>>> is less offensive. This model is enclosed and has a filtration system for >>>>>>> the fumes. >>>>>>> Noise **** This model is very >>>>>>> quiet. Quieter than the earlier models. >>>>>>> Filament ***** Since you can set the >>>>>>> nozzle temp in the software, use of third party (less expensive) filament >>>>>>> is possible. I pay about $13 a kilogram of abs or pla as opposed to >>>>>>> Afinia's prices for filament. (about $40 for same) >>>>>>> Speed ***** Print preview of the magnet >>>>>>> plate on normal resolution indicates that the part will take 3.5 hours to >>>>>>> print. The roll cage 4.5 hours on normal settings. More time for fine >>>>>>> settings and less for fast. >>>>>>> No heat issues >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this helps. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 12, 2018 at 9:20 AM, Michael Norkun < >>>>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> My science department is in the market for a 3D printer. We are 3D >>>>>>>> printing noobs. This will be our first endeavor with this piece of tech. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What recommendations do any of you have in terms of price, brands, >>>>>>>> vendors, sizes, printing times, noise level, heat issues, smell >>>>>>>> issues...etc? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Attached are two STL files for a project my students are working on >>>>>>>> that I ended up bribbing a friend to print at his work with a case of Shed's >>>>>>>> Baltic Porter <http://theshedbrewery.com/beers/baltic-porter>. >>>>>>>> How long would something like that take to print on a typical school 3d >>>>>>>> printer? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: File] >>>>>>>> Magnet_Plate_v9.stl >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/a/wnesu.com/file/d/1-AnNSEabkwkAKZdeJRZodQTnBpbqqh-e/view?usp=drivesdk> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [image: File] >>>>>>>> Magnet_Roll_Cage_v3.stl >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://drive.google.com/a/wnesu.com/file/d/1Jlw4LkmgFOFxYTI5VkzNn3Xn4hP1kz9w/view?usp=drivesdk> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Mike Norkun >>>>>>>> Science Teacher / Science Coordinator >>>>>>>> Bellows Falls Union High School >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *"Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished."* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>> ----------- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Search <http://list.uvm.edu/archives/school-it.html> the SCHOOL-IT >>>>>>>> Archive >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Manage <http://list.uvm.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=SCHOOL-IT&A=1> your >>>>>>>> Subscription to SCHOOL-IT >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The plural of anecdote is not data. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I took all of the standard subjects in school. 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