We buy all our 1:! chomebooks with 4 year warranties with ADP.  It might
not be the cheapest way to go, but it does give me a fixed cost to provide
each student with a working device for their career here, unless they
damage it intentionally, in which case the warranty doesn't, in theory,
cover it.  In practice the manufacturer doesn't know if the kid did the
damage intentionally or accidentally, except in extreme cases.  One kid
threw his chromebook out his apartment window, it landed on a passing car,
the police were summoned, and they gave it back to me in pieces months

In the cases of intentional damage, it's an administrator's call, but we
have a stockpile of 6 year old Samsung chromebooks, we'd usually give the
kid one of those.  They're not worth much, so it's no loss if he damages
that one, too.  In other cases we do say you can't take it home any more,
and it's dropped off in the Principal's office at the end of the day.  That
all depends on whether a teacher says the kid really does need a chromebook
at home to do homework.  Frequently the kids who do this kind of stuff
aren't taking the most academically challenging of the courses we offer

Anyway, these cases are rare enough that they can be dealt with on a case
by case basis, usually with meetings with the parent(s) involved.

As to charging, we only charge for intentional damage, and lost items.
Kids rarely lose the chromebooks permanently (leaving them in classrooms is
another story), but they lose chargers at an incredible rate, even though
they could just leave them at home if they'd just charge the thing

On Fri, Oct 12, 2018 at 7:55 AM Craig Donnan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Most schools have determined that self-insurance (purchasing extra to swap
> is cheaper and more effective than covering individual device insurance)
> +1 to Mark's use of a downgrade to have a 'cost' associated with damage
> patterns of behavior.  There has to be some 'cost' even if it is not
> financial.  Some parents can't afford to repair a school-owned device.
> +1 to Ray on the school owning the 'insurance' plan.  The parents didn't
> agree to the program directly, though there is usually a parental buy-in
> with signature, it still is, in a way an obligation for the curricular
> program to have devices for each student.  For kids that can't handle it,
> keeping the device at school, is not a bad strategy.  Device damage goes up
> logarithmically (a turn of phrase - not exact) with a take-home policy.
> Swanton Ohio has a great website that explains all their policies and
> looks like something worth emulating.
> C
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> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 3:06 PM Ethan Kichura <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Hi Keith,
>> Generally speaking, if there are damages and it is intentional, we would
>> charge. Admittedly it gets pretty gray to identify intentional vs.
>> unintentional damage in most situations, so while we err on the side of
>> being lenient with this policy, we also are looking to communicate the
>> responsibility of students in properly managing devices they "own." We have
>> had a lot of students in some of our schools within the district
>> intentionally damage devices without this policy, which I know helped to
>> lead toward its creation. In the long-term, I would also like to move
>> toward an insurance plan for them as well, if that helps to decide how
>> to proceed in your own case.
>> Thanks for bringing it up! I also find this an intriguing conversation
>> piece, and would relish other perspectives on the best way to balance
>> responsibility with assured access (which I admittedly hate suspending for
>> any reason!).
>> Best,
>> Ethan Kichura
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>> On Thu, Oct 11, 2018 at 11:10 AM Keith Puffer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> Ethan,
>>>    - Are the offenses/fees for any damage (unintentional, accidental)
>>>    or for just for intentional damage?
>>>    - Do you provide cases for your devices?
>>> +1 Ray based on several years discussions on this topic (my personal
>>> opinion/perspective).
>>> Keith
>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 3:26 PM, Ethan Kichura <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>> This is a question that we have been asking for a few years now and
>>>> have had a few different systems tested to share with you on what does and
>>>> does not work.
>>>> The first few years we had no issues because of what I like to call the
>>>> "new car" effect, where everyone is being careful with the new tools and
>>>> encouraging students to do the same. After that, we noticed a steep raise
>>>> in damages, and found that we had students who were intentionally damaging
>>>> them as part of non-defiance, etc... We responded this year by having a
>>>> more robust digital citizenship training for our staff and for our
>>>> students, and have been tracking damages for each student's device (they
>>>> have a 1:1 for 3rd-6th grades and the device follows them from year to
>>>> year). Parents and students alike signed a form at the beginning of the
>>>> school year that gave them a rundown of the school's expectations when it
>>>> comes to digital resources, accounts, social media, etc..., and outlined
>>>> our expected use policy for our devices, including a formal acknowledgement
>>>> letting both parties know that damages are handled in the following way:
>>>> 1. First offenses = $35 flat fee (unless the device is deemed
>>>> unrepairable, in which case the cost of a full device is billed to the
>>>> family)
>>>> 2. Subsequent offenses = $45 flat fees (unless the device is deemed
>>>> unrepairable, in which case the cost of a full device is billed to the
>>>> family)
>>>> Finally, I should add that we also have an affordance for families
>>>> unable to pay the fee/s that focuses on community service instead, in which
>>>> students will be help in our IT lab doing repairs at times that are
>>>> sensible according to our behavior support team's suggested schedule to
>>>> repay the cost.
>>>> Hope that helps?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ethan Kichura
>>>> --------------------
>>>> *Technology Coordinator*
>>>> Highgate Elementary School
>>>> 219 Gore Rd.
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>>>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2018 at 3:11 PM Jeff Weiner <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> I'm at a 1:1 school, we have all Acer Chromebooks and we're finding
>>>>> that our kids are breaking devices on a regular basis.  How are other 1:1
>>>>> schools managing breakage from both a process in dealing with
>>>>> damaged devices and dealing with students?  Are students/parents paying for
>>>>> broken devices?  Are schools insuring their devices?  Are parents insuring
>>>>> the devices?  We have a $20 damage waiver, but it's not really paying for
>>>>> the breakage, nor does the student learn anything about caring for a device
>>>>> when they just get a replacement.
>>>>> Anyone willing to share their experience with this?
>>>>> Jeff
>>>>> *************
>>>>> Jeff Weiner
>>>>> Technology Director
>>>>> Wakefield Public Schools
>>>>> 60 Farm St.
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