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Ethan,

Nice to know that about HP, the 11G6ee is one of my other options and I
like the USB-C Charging, I have a few  G4 and G5 versions and really like
them so far.  Right now HP's pricing is a bit better.

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 1:02 PM Ethan Kichura <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Yeah, we have had a few devices that are in that range, too. Generally
> speaking, most models have an upper limit of 5 years before they get iced
> by Google. We went with the HP G6 EE this year for that reason, because it
> had a nice long retirement date, but sadly they have not been the most
> reliable devices thus far. We had several that had recalls that were
> disruptive to replace. Should have known not to go with HP!
>
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> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 12:26 PM Leslie, Ben <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> That's what did, the device must be way to old (2012 model year
>> Samsung).  I even went as far as using the chrome recover utility to
>> reinstall the OS
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:44 AM Ethan Kichura <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> There are limits to how high a version you can update the devices to,
>>> but providing you are on a device that is capable of receiving an update,
>>> you would have to log into the CB with a GSuites Admin account, and then in
>>> "settings">>"About Chrome". There you can check for updates and push that
>>> out manually by downloading and then restarting the device. Before you do
>>> that though, you would have to go into GSuites to turn off any settings
>>> that restrict updates to a certain version (if you have that feature
>>> enabled).
>>>
>>> This will generally work, but there are devices that will not get the
>>> message so to speak and will sometimes not update as you're seeing there.
>>> For those devices, I have had to deprovision them and powerwash the
>>> devices. It is a pain if you have more than one or two to do in this way
>>> and since I support a school with several hundred of these devices now...
>>> The amount of lost time I would have to spend on this process is well
>>> beyond the value of lost support to my staff that it would cost to do so.
>>>
>>> I believe there is also a way to do the update through the Developer
>>> Console as well, but I have not tested that to be sure.
>>>
>>> Ethan Kichura
>>> --------------------
>>> *Technology Coordinator*
>>> Highgate Elementary School
>>> 219 Gore Rd.
>>> Highgate Center, VT
>>> (802) 868-4170
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>>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 11:18 AM Leslie, Ben <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> How do you manually update the chromebooks?  I   briefly tried to
>>>> update some really old Samsungs but they didn’t go above it’s out dated
>>>> discontinued OS version (unsupported for SBAC)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:43 AM Ethan Kichura <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> No prob! This website was the single best find I have come across when
>>>>> it comes to long-term CB planning. Good to know when the lights will "go
>>>>> out". It's not that you can't continue to use the devices that are
>>>>> "retired" by Google after that date, but they become a manual update... And
>>>>> I suspect that you feel similarly about the tediousness of maintaining that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best of luck!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ethan Kichura
>>>>> --------------------
>>>>> *Technology Coordinator*
>>>>> Highgate Elementary School
>>>>> 219 Gore Rd.
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=219+Gore+Rd.+Highgate+Center,+VT&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> Highgate Center, VT
>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=219+Gore+Rd.+Highgate+Center,+VT&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>> (802) 868-4170
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>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:34 AM Leslie, Ben <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ethan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Touch screens are something I'm not looking for.  The retirement date
>>>>>> of 2022 is a bit worrisome, thanks for pointing that out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 10:28 AM Ethan Kichura <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We had purchased 80 of these devices at our site last year. They
>>>>>>> have been pretty bullet proof so far. We had worked with CTL the year
>>>>>>> before in other schools in our district and found those devices far less
>>>>>>> reliable, but I have nothing but good things to say about the C731 model.
>>>>>>> We also had the C720 and C740 models, which I actually liked a lot less
>>>>>>> than the C731s.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would caution you that while instructionally speaking an awesome
>>>>>>> component to include, the touchscreen might be something to shy away from
>>>>>>> though, since the replacement costs for any damaged screens can be quite
>>>>>>> hefty. The only downside is that parts for these can be challenging to find
>>>>>>> and they are not easy to get open to work on (much more time consuming than
>>>>>>> the C720 and C740).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Despite that minor critical note about service ease, I would give
>>>>>>> these my full recommendation. Honestly, we would have purchased them again
>>>>>>> this year if not for the fact that they are being 'retired' in January 2022
>>>>>>> (i.e., dropped from Google's auto-update policy for ChromeOS and I can't
>>>>>>> quite bring myself to consider manually updating that many CBs!).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope that helps! Let me know if you have any more specific questions!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ethan Kichura
>>>>>>> --------------------
>>>>>>> *Technology Coordinator*
>>>>>>> Highgate Elementary School
>>>>>>> 219 Gore Rd.
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=219+Gore+Rd.+Highgate+Center,+VT&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>> Highgate Center, VT
>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=219+Gore+Rd.+Highgate+Center,+VT&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>> (802) 868-4170
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2018 at 8:14 AM Leslie, Ben <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone have experience with the Acer Chromebook C731/C731T?
>>>>>>>> I've purchased the C720 and C740 Chromebooks in the past and have been very
>>>>>>>> happy with them. Just wondering if these are on par with those for
>>>>>>>> durability and build quality.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Ben Leslie
>>>>>>>> *Coordinator of Technology*
>>>>>>>> Battenkill Valley Supervisory Union / Arlington School District
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Arlington High School*
>>>>>>>> P: 802-375-2589 ext. 165
>>>>>>>> *Fisher Elementary School*
>>>>>>>> P: 802-375-6409 ext. 261
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>>>>>> Ben Leslie
>>>>>> *Coordinator of Technology*
>>>>>> Battenkill Valley Supervisory Union / Arlington School District
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> *Fisher Elementary School*
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>> Battenkill Valley Supervisory Union / Arlington School District
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Ben Leslie
*Coordinator of Technology*
Battenkill Valley Supervisory Union / Arlington School District

*Arlington High School*
P: 802-375-2589 ext. 165
*Fisher Elementary School*
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