One of the things I like about Dr. Mercola's 
website are the comments -- thousands upon 
thousands of them. There is a collective 
knowledge "bank" that emerges. And many of those 
posting (whether I agree with the posts or not -- 
and mostly I find them very interesting) are 
coming to anti-capitalist and definitely 
anti-fascist positions, which is quite remarkable.

A month ago, Dr. Mercola posted Jonathan Latham's 
overview of the possibilities that covid-19 was 
created in a lab. I posted there, and there have 
been many responses that have taken off in 
interesting directions, including references to 
research we'd do well to look at (that I never 
heard about, such as the one at the end here 
about the genetic sequencing of the virus and 
what is wrong with the way it is portrayed in the media).

Here is a sampling that I appreciate, amidst the 
89 comments to Jonathan Latham's essay on Mercola's site.

<>Mitchel Cohen
Excellent piece, and extremely frightening. Dr. 
Mercola is once again performing a huge service 
by helping to propagate Jonathan Latham's 
brilliant work. My question, though, is Why leave 
out the possibiity that the virus was being 
"worked on" at Fort Detrick Army Medical Research 
Institute of Infectious Diseases, and transferred 
to China when AMRIID was shut down last summer 
due possibly because of accidental releases, and 
U.S. researchers resumed work in Wuhan, with whom 
the U.S. has a strong monetary interest. It's 
very important to see the possible U.S. role here ....

Michael Cohen - the "US role" is bound up with 
Fauci's funding of his ongoing experimental work 
that was moved from Fort Derrick to Wuhan - Gates 
is also involved in this funding - the continuity 
of Fauci's initiatives is the "smoking gun" you 
wish to expose  - that this is the guy who is 
still calling the shots is astounding - Fauci 
should be tried not asked for counselling

Is the U.S. not 'always' involved in these 
matters? Have they not created and sustained just 
about every war that ever was? Have they not 
conducted numerous chemical and biological 
experiments on their own citizens? The people in 
power are pure evil and they couldn't care less 
about humanity! Playing God and playing with 
fire! I've noticed lately that the Canadian press 
is aggressively pushing the narrative that this 
virus came from the "wet market"; even so far as 
to be specific; in that it "originated from a 
wood block" in the market. While everyone is 
looking the other way; I've read of a number of 
cities (Canadian as well), implementing mandatory 
mask laws. This insanity has been going on for 
half a year now and it looks as if the zombie 
masses are accepting (hook, line and sinker!) 
this "New Normal"; just as the globalists had 
hoped. What do you think it will be like in 
another 6 months? More acceptance = more tyranny!

BTW: "Then there’s the H1N1 swine flu pandemic of 
2009". That was also the year that "they" began 
aggressively pushing the flu vaccine (signs began 
popping up everywhere); the same time that I 
investigated vaccines, then made the decision to 
never accept another vaccine! I do not see that 
as a coincidence...and look where we are today. 
P.A. systems blaring; "Come to the pharmacy and 
get your "free" vaccine to keep you and your 
loved ones safe"! There are signs, everywhere you 
look; "Get your "free" flu shot here". It's 
simply amazing that so many people fail to see the agenda here!

If one remembers how Hitler came into power, he 
co-opt the Fourth Estate, aka the Press. and had 
them spread enough propaganda to get him 
elected.  History repeats itself today.

When everything returns to normal, the only way 
that pollution does not submerge people in an 
unbreathable environment, that promotes diseases 
and degradation of the planet, is to make the 
most of alternative energy sources, to use more 
public transport , electric vehicles are promoted 
and shared, and more bicycle lanes are made. As 
long as governments depend on the monopolies of 
polluting industries, the degradation of the 
planet and the extinction of the biodiversity of 
plants and animals cannot be stopped.

Not only children can react particularly 
sensitive, but also the health of adults and 
particularly the elderly is determined by 
environmental influences. A German study (women 
between 68 and 79 years old) conducted by the 
University of Düsseldorf showed a link between 
the results of cognitive tests and proximity to 
road traffic. A recent Danish study points to a 
similar correspondence for Parkinson's disease. 
The health effects of air pollution are serious: 
one third of deaths from stroke, lung cancer and 
heart disease are due to air pollution. This has 
an effect equivalent to that of smoking tobacco.

Humans are estimated to have impacted 83% of the 
Earth's land surface, affecting many ecosystems, 
as well as the range in which specific species of 
wildlife used to exist. The number of animals 
living on land and seafarers has decreased by 40% 
since 1970. Insect populations have decreased by 
75% in some parts of the world. Most worryingly, 
about 33% to 20% of amphibians and mammals are 
endangered in the coming decades. Along with the 
extinction of species, the devastation of 
genetically unique populations and the loss of 
their genetic variation leads to irreversible 
loss of biodiversity. 

Pazyryk....The real key to reducing these 
"dangerous" gases (last time I checked CO2 was 
necessary for photosynthesis) is how we 
farm.  Regenerative farming, which advocates no 
till operation is the key to binding up the 
problem heat retaining gases that cause this 
supposed global warming.  Agreed that CO2 is an 
indication of these other problem gases but CO2 
is not a "bad guy".  It has been shown by Dr. 
Elaine Ingham that not plowing the land results 
in very high levels of carbon retention(binding) 
in the soil.  It also allows the soil biome to 
regenerate allowing the aerobic rather than 
anaerobic bacteria, fungi, flagellates, etc. to 
thrive resulting in rebuilding the "Soil Food Web" as she calls it.

There are over 5 million acres using this 
approach to farming with impressive 
results.  Case in point is the adaptation to 
Dr.  ingham's processes by the Australian dairy 
industry.  If you want to save "mother gaia" the 
key is not in going back to walking, riding 
bicycles and reading by candlelight.  If you want 
to see the results of this approach, read Gabe Brown's book "Dirt to Soil".

This conflation of climate change with CO2 must 
stop and the narrative changed to stop trashing 
the planet regardless of whether man made gasses 
are to blame for the global temperature rise. The 
last time I checked well over 20 thousand 
scientists had signed a petition stating the 
alleged human cause was bad science. An yet the 
polar ice caps continue to melt. It's obvious 
that if the linkage between the two doesn't exist 
the focus of the human population problem would 
be reshaped as well. It would invalidate the 
premise from which Gates and company operate (as 
stated in his 2010 TED Talk) along with all their subsequent activities.

Agree with most of this, NASA got a better 
picture of the virus from space than we were 
getting from most of our media. Oddest part was 
about 3 weeks ago, when Tesla was banned from 
opening their automated production line early in 
CA - we need more battery powered vehicles than 
ever Elon Musk threatened to leave 
the state, then opened his factory anyway. Some 
state and local negotiations occurred later. 
Suspect from newer reports, he is already scoping 
out possible sites in TX.  And there's several 
articles on line about a new, million mile 
battery that Tesla developed with a Chinese firm: 

- - A few people and companies are on a far more 
promising futuristic trajectory than the vaccine 
agenda with associated, future track and tracing 
we see from the US govt. Can easily assume air 
pollution plays a substantial role in 
transporting this virus, because every place the 
air cleared up, (clear deep blue skies over Milan 
for a time) people came out again. Entirely 
possible the NIAID knew this as well, which is 
why we were kept "off the roads" for a 
substantial time. (This was the only reason that 
makes sense instead of simply protecting the 
sick.) Here's a summary article, others are 
starting to show up as well: 
Gotta read more international to get more relevant news, than ever before.

ThePaz wrote  "Merkal......while simultaneously 
wholeheartedly encouraging the production, sales 
and usage of BMWs on the other." Did you mean to 
say encouraging the production, sales and usage 
of Mercedes in Stuttgart, Germany. I don't mean 
to be petty but I thought BMW was made in 
England. But this is a larger disease of where 
our governments across the world are colluding 
with The NWO wish list on all sorts of nefarious 
adventures. Every year the Bilderbergs convene to 
some isolated convention site usually in Europe, 
to inform the worker bees about the wishes of the 
Most High Demons that are to be carried out in the future.

I suppose this Plandemic along with Climate 
Change, Depopulation of the masses, culling in 
Africa, Asia and across the world have been at 
the top of their list for the last several years. 
Fauci is one of their worker bees. That's why he 
pushes for 'Gain Of Function' to help the viruses 
which always causes 'Loss Of Function' and 'Loss 
Of Life' for the people. So for them, all is 
going according to 

I second Guillermou but have to add that the 
elephant in the room, chemtraililng, considerably 
must contribute to climate change. 
Scientist David Keith says here, that 
nanoparticles of aluminum, barium ,strontium 
suspended on fiberglass particles, are sprayed 
from jets to deflect the sun's rays, which heats 
the upper atmospheres, evaporating the clouds and 
contributing to droughts. There is only one 
problem with claiming that this mitigates global 
warming, namely, that aerosols are known to punch 
holes in the ozone layer, causing global warming. 
Ooops. Not to mention, droughts which the mad 
scientist himself admits to, see video above.

Have not been able to find good references about 
chemtrails other than the one cited below which 
was quickly retracted.  Have they been studied in 
depth? References  re toxic rain, geo-engineering 
etc are relevant.  NASA images appear to show 
marked changes in the troposphere within the 
first two decades of this century - whether by 
accident or deliberate, does not matter.  It is 
entirely conceivable that the “militarisation of 
the sky” could include a virus infection 
programme. Given what we already know or suspect 
about corporate surveillance and the power elite, 
nothing should be discounted from their 
agenda.  Int.J,Environ.Res.Public Health 2015,12,9375-9390.

Mirandola: No shortage of chemtrails here. I have 
some really good photos from the past few days 
and I show them to people, explaining that it's 
precisely why it rained the following night/day. 
Of course, all they see are "clouds". There is no 
way that those long trails can be mistaken for 
"clouds"! The "Elephant in the room" may as well 
get up and leave. He's become invisible! 4am here 
and it's 13 degrees/55 fahrenheit - in the middle of July!

Correction: 12C. The dark clouds are now beginning to roll in - quite typical!

There is not much "natural" weather these days. 
For those of you who aren't interested in 
listening to the following podcast by Dane 
Wiggington; you should, at least, listed from 
27:20 to 31:30. It discusses Fauci's "conflicts 
of interest". It is concerning; and extremely 
important information, as it relates to our current situation!

what gets me is that Gates and Fauci promote this 
viral research by funding it {supposedly, for 
vaccine knowledge} - there is also the idea that 
future pandemics can better be dealt with through 
this DANGEROUS research - the  "chickens have 
come home to roost" and now Gates and Fauci see 
this human problem that they were instrumental in 
creating as an opportunity to make a killing {in 
every possible way} - the "insult to injury" 
aspect is that when realizing that their paid for 
experiments had actually caused some infectious 
agent to become a threat to certain immune 
compromised humans, -   they actually did their 
best to compromise these unfortunate vulnerable 
types by flooding the Nursing Homes with disease 
vectors - this should be a jail sentence in itself

they then proceeded to amplify the mortality 
figures and create a wave of fear with FALSE 
DEATH REPORTS - they implemented financial 
incentives for hospitals that helped them 
FICTIONALIZE cause of death in humans that had 
not died from Covid - Gates then used his 
influence peddling at the WHO {whom he owns} to 
institute a Lockdown that has CRASHED the World 
Economy and will cause millions to die - the 
basis of this brainwave by Gates is the "bargain 
basement" sales that the multiple bankruptcies will allow

this man is a villain and the stupid politicians 
that have kowtowed to his bribery "carrot" must 
be voted out of office as soon as possible - the 
fact that these politicians could not see the 
predictable collapse of their economies is enough 
proof that these public servants do not deserve 
to be in public office any longer as a result of 
their treasonous dereliction of duty to their 
civic constituents - VOTE the WHOLE bankrupt 
mentality and corrupt bribery mongers OUT OF 
OFFICE - Gates should be tried for TREASON and 
other fiscal irregularities relating to his use 
of taxpayer's money to further his Population 
Control murderous activities - Fauci is just a 
pilot fish picking scraps from Gates's teeth

What's crazy, mixed up and backward, is that 
people call the underground "Fake news" while 
trusting the real source of fake news, called the 
media. The media is causing a breakdown of our 
economy, civil liberties and is driving insane 
levels of fear, OCD, social separation, probably 
contributing to infant loneliness and neglect for 
lack of hugging due to fear and mask wearing, and 
is contributing to suicides ,more...while many 
people think "it is the job of the media to scare 
us" they have actually said that. Now see this, 
where is Bill Gates's money invested? See chart 
And see who funds the media, aha! 

this is a really good article. Undergound 
journalist found himself locked out of a closed 
door media meeting with Bill Gates Foundation, 
On the Gates Fdn website But you see, those who 
drive fear, suicide, economic collapse, 
isolation, house arrest, are our friends and 
saviors, while those who try to create a balanced 
picture based on highly credible sources, are the 
kooks and the crazies. The murderers are our 
saviors while those calling out the truth are 
labeled. The media has done a real job on our 
collective head. We must continue to help break 
through with the truth. It is time for justice at 
last for those who created this whole scheme. As 
for The General Good, how about closing the virus 
"research" labs? That would be a good starting 
point. How those pointing fingers at others, 
truly do project their own shadows, tell this to a contact tracer....

Yes, STAN, Gates and Fauci represent the great 
deception of the origin of vaccines and defend 
their corrupt interests of investing in vaccines 
for their profits, regardless of the damage they 
are causing to humanity. This pandemic is a 
project of deceit and lies that leads to a loss 
of freedoms, misery and the poison of the 
vaccine. People must be informed to criticize a 
reality that causes a severe economic crisis and 
much suffering for families, increase, 
depression, suicides, inequalities and hunger for 
the world. This is a pandemic of domination and 
power through the control of the media, through 
coercive and violent mechanisms that what they 
have achieved is to reproduce the germ of 
indiscriminate exploitation and genocidal 
destruction of the environment, to sustain a 
machinery of death. The Bill and Melinda Gates 
Foundation, the Rockefeller Foundation, has spent 
many years declaring war on democratic 
principles, the rights and freedoms of people,

The increased function that Dr. Ralph Baric of 
the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill 
argues that these viral manipulations is 
"critical to the development of vaccines and 
broad-based therapies" is a big lie. The truth is 
that this increase in function has brought fatal 
consequences for vaccine development and, based 
on this pandemic, CDC / NIH / WHO / Gates / 
Rockefeller, Fauci, etc. sociopaths are 
orchestrating this disaster by adopting draconian 
interventions. like immunity certificates, 
microchips, forced vaccination, torpedoing our 
sovereign rights, and ultimately, the war on life 
with a vaccine that will only bring benefits to 
BigPhama and its government partners, while injecting more disease into people.

Corruption in US health institutions, led by the 
Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. Medical 
historians have described strong "affinities" 
between eugenics and public health, affinities 
that helped justify decades of involuntary 
sterilization of women and men of all races and 
ethnic groups throughout the United States.. 
“From the outset, the researchers were 
comfortable not only withholding treatment but 
also actively working to keep the men in the dark 
about available treatments”. “

It is . . . unethical when people championing the 
cause of vaccines are the same ones who are also 
investing in vaccine development” “. …the 
Tuskegee study had moved from being a singular 
historical event to a powerful metaphor 
symbolizing racism in medicine, misconduct in 
human research, the arrogance of physicians, and 
government abuse of Black people.” HISTORICAL 

hi Mirandola - great article in your link - if 
more people would actually AVAIL themselves of 
this data and COMPREHEND what this means to the 
way the world we live in is organized - then all 
this talk about "controversy" that the Mainstream 
narrative levels against the alternative media 
would become transposed and the Mainstream media 
would become the source of the alleged 
"controversy" that seeks to OBFUSCATE the Truth 
with their constant repetition of pseudo facts 
and misleading information and made up fictions 
that newspapers and TV masquerade as THEIR version of the Truth

hi Gui - the idea that caucasoid features make 
one SUPERIOR is so unbelievable that Future 
chroniclers {that is if there is to be a Future} 
will have great difficulty explaining what the 
basis of this generalized prejudice against 
certain groupings on the basis of superficial 
differences  worked - with the melting pot now 
integrating these differences into a universal 
human grouping these anachronistic separations 
will seem particularly strange to Future Man

<>Mitchel Cohen
paral04  Just a slight historical correction: 
Hitler was NEVER elected, he was appointed by the 
moderate who HAD won the election. The fact is, 
Hitler was NOT elected. He was appointed 
Chancellor of Germany by German President Paul 
von Hindenburg. And this is a distinction with a 
very profound difference, at least insofar as it 
comes to understanding Democracy historically and 
in formulating strategy for defeating the 
fascists who have seized power in the U.S. today.

The politician that the German voters actually 
elected was NOT Hitler but "lesser evil" 
monarchist Hindenburg. In the initial 1932 
presidential elections Hindenburg, who did not 
even campaign, defeated Hitler by 49-30 percent, 
a substantial margin. (The Communist candidate 
received 13 percent of that vote.) In the runoff, 
the 85-year-old Hindenburg increased his total 
vote to 53 percent while the *** received 36 
percent, with 10 percent going to the Communists.

Given their electoral failure, the *** resorted 
to other means to come to power. Under the 
so-called socialists running the government of 
the pre-Nazi Weimar Republic, the vast majority 
of violence and killing was perpetrated by the 
Nazi's and the right. The government either 
refused to prosecute or investigate or else meted 
out the tiniest sentences or fines. The *** took 
advantage of the economic misery of the country 
and used systematic violence to create conditions 
inside Germany that were utterly intolerable, 
utilizing the economic depression and global 
capitalist crisis to destabilize the society, 
scapegoat the Jews, attack Communists, and 
pressure for Hitler to be appointed as the law and order expert.

<>Mitchel Cohen
Apparently, the website or webhost replaced some 
of my uses of the name of Hitler's party with asterisks. why?

the word censor has an anomaly where the singular 
Nazi is allowed but the plural Nazi s is not allowed

Forbiddenhealing, Krofter: I have been quoting 
the CDC's own website, that the estimated death 
figures are 0.28%. That helps different wheels to 
turn... I too was suspicious *immediately* when 
they started to call this a pandemic. I went to 
the CDC's site: At that time, 600 deaths USA 
wide. Oh but China is dying, Italy is dying, fear 
ye! That only ADDED to my suspicions, fake 
science, and THEY KNOW IT!! They know that 
cultures have their own medical strengths and 
weaknesses  based on diet and environment alike. 
On pubmed, it is common to read about larger 
cultural cross sectors. So should the French, 
given the French paradox, come running for their 
anti-cholesterol meds just because Americans are 
dying of heart attacks? I was mad. WHY is there 
no testing to confirm? That is suspicious.

WHERE are the hospital ships and backup campuses 
if they invoke fear of hospital overwhelm? WHAT?? 
Asymptomatic carriers spreading illness? Common 
cold too, true? Lockdown?? Antibodies=no 
immunity?  This is a fraud and the people are so 
gullible it is sickening. Who cares if there is 
homelessness, starvation, suicides, love-lacking 
infants, just keep your "social" distance 
(oxymoron) and shut down the economy! Keep up the 
fear ruse, no conscience, no remorse. The media 
is guilty of major crimes against the people, as 
are those who designed this whole architecture. 
They all have to be tried for crimes against 
humanity. Oh, and guess what, for a virus to 
escape a lab is a no-brainer.  Deliberate or not.

As it so happens, lots to be suspect there 
at fist there were pages and pages of articles 
about genetic engineering of bat viruses. Days 
later, the URL link itself is Chinese as are all 
the articles. Ten days later, the SAME URL, 
English translation button takes you to the Yunan 
lab. Not a single article re bat viruses. Days 
later, redirected to Beijing and not a single 
article about genetic engineering of bat viruses. 
HUH? What have they got to hide

Pardon my naiveté and possibly ignorance, but why 
are we here on Earth playing with viruses?!  To 
me, it's like playing with fire at a gas 
station...  Sooner or later there's going to be a 
fire...possibly an explosion...  Why do it?  Yes, 
I know they do it because they can...  But, let's 
apply some common sense.  It should be stopped!!

In our technofascist, capitalistic system, 
anything that makes money is given the green 
light.  All bow to the almighty dollar.

<>Mitchel Cohen
There are three main arguments for why they 
accept and fund gain-of-function "research" in top-security labs.

1) To study and create vaccines for viral 
diseases, including trying to predict future mutations

2) Because viruses are created in "Nature" (that 
is, unintentionally by humans), especially as 
climate changes and pathogens (including viruses) 
are released into urban environments where they'd never been seen before

3) To manufacture weapons in biowarfare strategies of the Pentagon and others

I'm involved in arguments on other lists with 
friends who oppose biowarfare same as me, but who 
think it is important to study viruses, which 
entails isolating and storing them safely, and, 
yes, "playing" with them, thinking that we can 
build facilities secure enough so that no 
pathogen ever escapes, which is itself absurd and 
an arrogant conceit that some otherwise conscionable humans display.

Politicians, media, STOP talking about "the 
general good" until all labs worldwide---each and 
every one of them---experimenting with infectious 
agents in any way, shape or form....are all shut 
down permanently. No replacement labs, or 
experiment sites of any kind, allowed. End of 
this phase! Any talk about "the general good" is 
two-faced and criminally negligent, unless and 
until this is done. Period. End of story.

"vaccine manufacturers are in denial" - not true 
- vaccine manufacturers are premeditatively 
maiming/ harming/ paralysing/ murdering innocent 
children and they see this as collateral to their 
profit  - this is the facts of the matter - Gates 
paralysed half a million young Indian girls but 
this did not even give him pause for thought - 
Gates still bullshits the public with "the 
science" - his "science" which is a death 
sentence to his victims - Gates is quite aware of 
this but does not care - his propaganda machine talks "safety" non stop

To invoke that misplaced phrase "For the greater 
good", where it does belong well placed, is to 
shut down every single virus experimenting lab 
world wide. Further, regulate that there may be 
no further experiments on pathogens, in a lab or 
elsewhere, ever again to prevent new ones from 
springing up post-shutdown. if the WHO and 
governments are one bit responsible and even one 
bit concerned about this pandemic, they will work 
to this end and no compromises.

We had a big surprise when looking at the Wuhan 
lab's URL. It was all in English, then one week 
later suddenly the URL itself, and all website 
contents, were only in Chinese. Pages and pages 
of articles about genetic engineering of bat 
viruses including one article titled "the bats 
carry all of the ingredients to make a brand new 
SARS virus". About four days later an English 
translation button appeared, this time directing 
the reader to the Yunan lab. Not one mention of 
genetic engineering of viruses, only one article 
about the very sad engineering of butterflies. 
Try a couple of days later again, and the reader 
is redirected instead of to Yunan, this time the 
SAME URL used all along, now bounces the reader 
over to Beijing. Huh?? What have they got to hide?

Czech molecular geneticist  Sona Pekova provides 
a lot of clarity on the subject.  Her bio and 
publications are here: 
.  The presentation on SARS-CoV-2  (in Czech) is 
here : 
Here are translated excerpts from the 
video:  “We  studied the ‘Source Code’ of the 
virus during its activity – the first 265 letters 
which constitute  the ‘Control 
Centre’.  CDC/WHO,  and the published article 
that blame Charles Darwin for the virus are 
looking at the ‘heel’ of the virus not at the 
‘head’. The ‘head’ was clearly edited in the lab 
- nothing like that exists in nature. “

Sona goes on explaining the method how they 
observe the virus  in action in the biological 
material (samples from the patients): “The first 
265 letters  code the regulation sequences of the 
virus which control all biological functions: 
This means: -          Replication – how fast it 
is multiplying -          Transcription – how it 
will transcript its genes which go from this spot on and build proteins

So this is the regulation center of the virus (it 
can be seen as a Command Center or Directorate). 
 From here the commands are issued in an 
organized manner.  This virus has incredible 
number of variants and speed of reproduction – 
the patients have very large viral load. So it 
appears that the “Command Center” issues the 
orders to replicate the genome very fast (this 
compares to fast typing on the keyboard and 
making mistakes) . According to some 
measurements  the replication rate is about 270 
times faster so it makes a large number of 
errors. That’s why there are different variants. 
If this is proven, it is a very unpleasant fact 
because it points out that this regulation part 
of the virus was edited by intervention of human 
hand … these are forbidden  manipulations (gain-of-function).