After *much* effort, and considerable expense to an unamed company, I succeeded in downloading and viewing the quicktime movies posted on the skivt-l WWW page. Most of this effort involved locating and downloading a version of Quicktime for Windows. (Note to Windows users who`d like to use QTW: I am convinced that QTW is not in the public domain. In several archives, QTW has been removed by employees of Apple Computer. If QTW is not shareware, I cannot ftp you a copy or anything like that. Please don`t ask -- QTW has been purged from my system. That said, let it be known that QTW is available on the WEB. Email me for a pointer. All I can say to a bunch of rope jumping, run poaching, ticket scamming, practitioners of the ski bum code is let your personal sense of ethics guide you. ) On to the movie review... These suckers were excellent. Good music and cool skiing sequences at MRG. The technical and skiing talents of skivt-l members are truly something. This ain`t Warren Miller - it`s better. No dumb jokes and better music. I think I am going to loop this movie on my system for the entire summer. Oops, I forgot. QTW is purged. John "Siskel" McEvoy