>... You have to put >enough cash on the barrelhead to buy the software, upgrade equipment and >above all TRAIN EVERYBODY on the new standard suite. We've done none of >the above. You'd have the same challenges even without switching from one product line to another. You still have to upgrade to current releases, or you put yourself in a position of getting no vendor support and, for some people, having software that doesn't work when you upgrade your operating system. True, UVM isn't giving away much software and hardware -- but as you know options like leases are being investigated. And training is both available and free. Departments that have made successful transitions from Word Perfect have taken advantage of several financial and educational options. - Pricing: Departments can buy a suite for about the price of a Word Perfect upgrade. The University Store has pooled Microsoft purchases so that UVM qualifies for steep discounts on Microsoft Office. I would like to see MOLP pricing available from the Store in single quantity purchases, as Microcomputer Services does for purchasers of new computers, but for now the Store will aggregate orders until they can buy, I think, 10 licenses. CIT has funded a site licensing program that makes Lotus Smart Suite available very inexpensively. - Consultation & advice: CIT has helped departments choose an alternative to Word Perfect, and has helped with document translation and other transition issues. Sometimes use of nonproprietary formats like HTML and RTF facilitates document sharing; other times special software is the best way to translate documents from one word processor format to another. Certainly, we still answer questions concerning Word Perfect when we can. When we do get stuck, though, we have no vendor resources to help us. - Education: In collaboration with UVM Libraries, CIT has provided self-paced education in use of recommended software. Videos for the latest versions have been purchased and should be cataloged over the break. In addition, CIT has taught expensive in-person classes for some departments. Other people have taken advantage of Church Street Center classes for which the University covers the cost. But aren't we going to paperless -- online -- communication? http://www.uvm.edu/~djw/paperless/ >I asked Norman and Roger over three years ago for a cost per seat for >running the Waterman Lab. I still have yet to get any hard numbers. ... How is this related? In any case, the long-term upgrade plans for the labs, with expected annual outlays, are at: http://cit.uvm.edu/labs/Upgrade.html We ended up (because prices kept getting better, etc.) with a scenario that's not shown at that URL. The amount spent for this summer's Windows upgrades, plus RAM in Macintoshes and software upgrades all around was about $177,000. Deane Dudley would have more precise numbers; the books are open. -Dean W.