Colleen-- Sounds like one of those reference class stumpers where the piece of the quote is close but not actually the quote. It's possible that the quote you're looking for is by philosopher Arthur Schopenhauer: All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident. I've been looking for the specific work from which this quote is taken; it's been no problem finding the quote attributed to Schopenhauer but I'm not about to read everything he wrote! Anyone else on the list have any clues? Valeria Long, MLIS Reference Librarian | Amberg Health Sciences Library Spectrum Health - Downtown | MC 040 100 Michigan NE | Grand Rapids, MI 49503-2560 [log in to unmask] voice 616 391-3143 | fax 616 391-3144 ---------- From: Colleen M Spagnola To: [log in to unmask] Subject: HELP Date: Thursday, June 17, 1999 9:03AM I am taking a reference class and we get a question per week-well I'm stuck and wonder if anyone could help before 1p.m. CST. The supposed quote starts: Before acceptance comes ridicule and ---------. Before you run to your regular sources let me tell you I have checked Gales' Quotations CD-Rom, Bartlett's, Dictionary of Quotations, Respectfully Quoted, Webster's New World Dictionary, The Home Book fof Quotations, Sayings of the Century, Oxford Dictionary of Quotes, and Oxford Dictionary of Modern Quotations to no avail. Even the reference librarian at the public library was stumped. Probably not a real quote just something to make us do a proper search but I thought I would try here just in case. Thanks for your help you can reply directly so as not to clutter the list. Thanks Colleen Spagnola [log in to unmask]