(Pam Sieving wrote to me should I be asking for help on the list.) Thanks Pam I
guess I should have made myself a little clearer.  We are allowed to ask for
help only after exhausting all other sources that we know.  We were told not to
ask the reference librarian first but only after any other searching.  We are
also allowed to ask for help to get started in the right direction so if you
have another source to help me that would be ok also.  Then I can check myself.
I hope the rest of these get a little easier.  I don't mind searching as long as
I can find an answer.

Thanks for your help.