Steve, I agree with your philosophy in regards to the flo-net being an adjunct academic vehicle for all of us, and I am privileged to be a part. however, I find your handling of the Flo-net vs. Middleton a little out of hand. While you might of felt it necessary to "discipline" Norm for his actions. I dont think we all needed to know the specifics of Ms. Pirt nor the length of Norms "banishment". That sort of judge and jury garble has no place on the net itself. Im sure you werent trying to rub salt in the wounds, I can assure you that enough attention has been paid to the issue. You could have spared us all the details and gave us all a stern warning. That usually does the trick!!! No dessert after dinner either Norm, do your homework and go straight to bed !!!!:) Douglas E. Marcum RT(R), RDMS, RVT Technical Director Vascular Laboratory Schreiber & Clift MD Maitland, (Orlando) FL (407) 629-0888 ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.