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In a message dated 9/28/99 4:04:32 PM EST, [log in to unmask] writes: << Flownetters, Regarding some suggestions that vascular techs should not be doing any other kind of ultrasound because they wouldn't be proficient in either, I have to say that Vascular and Echocardiography certainly go together if any do. It's the same system, Cardiovascular, I think they go hand in hand. The anatomy is different, but the hemodynamics, pressure relationships, and physics are really in one arena. I wouldn't want to do just one or the other. >> Will, Well, I certainly am glad that I'm not the only one with these thoughts. For this very reason it is more beneficial for echocardiographers and vascular technologist to be graduates from a cardiovascular program as opposed to a sonography program and to included in Cardiology department as opposed to a sonography or radiology departments. In CV programs the students learn more about the pathology and how it relates in each exam performed on patient with CV disease. Further more, they learn how all these studies relate i.e. RVTs working with the RCIS's to better assess the closure devices to holding techniques, or RDCS's working with the RCIS's to better assess a patients valvular disease or the QA of calculations,etc. I find it quite surprising to see many individuals forgetting or overlooking the fact that Intravascular U/S is being performed in the Cath Labs. However, with the increase in stent deployment Intravascular U/S will be a main stay. With all this interaction, why would some RVTs and RDCSs oppose a piece of legislation that includes all three, yet each specialty having it's own identity? Some even oppose cross-training between these specialties. I for one, would prefer to train an RDCS or an RVT in the cath lab as opposed to an RT or RN, we already have a common educational foundation. It takes a lot of time, patients, and effort to train the RTs and the RNs in the cath lab, which must include basic CV A/P! So, why should it offend any RVT or RDCS to be included in a legislative bill with the RCISs? Let me know what you think. Tony